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Question Question regarding grant letter for Prospective Marriage Visa (300) and traveling

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Hi, I can't seem to find anything related to my case on the site while searching this amazing site, here we go with my first post!

So, I'm from the USA, and I've applied for the PMV Subclass (300) around April 2019, and at the moment I'm in Australia on a tourist 12 month visa. sub (600)

Just today I got a letter letting me know that I need to start arranging travel plans as they want to finalize the our case (finally yay!!) and I need to remain outside of Australia for at least 3 full business days (US time), no problem.

But, what my partner and I wanted to do was to visit the USA and Mexico for family and friends, 2 months in the USA and 1 month in Mexico, but we don't know if we can exactly do that since reading the "What you must do on this visa" section on the subclass (300) page on homeaffairs.

It states "Enter Australia by the date specified in your visa grant letter"
Once we receive the visa grant notice, will the date specified on the grant force us to come back before our trip is finished, or will we be able to spend the whole 3 months traveling?
Or does that statement just means to re-enter Australia within the 9 months of stay the Visa (300) gives on grant and get married?

We really wanted to visit some family members, but otherwise it looks like we should just make a trip to New Zealand for a couple of weeks.

We are probably just overreacting, we just want to get everything right,
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Good Morning/ Good evening all!

Hi, I can't seem to find anything related to my case on the site while searching this amazing site, here we go with my first post!

So, I'm from the USA, and I've applied for the PMV Subclass (300) around April 2019, and at the moment I'm in Australia on a tourist 12 month visa. sub (600)

Just today I got a letter letting me know that I need to start arranging travel plans as they want to finalize the our case (finally yay!!) and I need to remain outside of Australia for at least 3 full business days (US time), no problem.

But, what my partner and I wanted to do was to visit the USA and Mexico for family and friends, 2 months in the USA and 1 month in Mexico, but we don't know if we can exactly do that since reading the "What you must do on this visa" section on the subclass (300) page on homeaffairs.

It states "Enter Australia by the date specified in your visa grant letter"
Once we receive the visa grant notice, will the date specified on the grant force us to come back before our trip is finished, or will we be able to spend the whole 3 months traveling?
Or does that statement just means to re-enter Australia within the 9 months of stay the Visa (300) gives on grant and get married?

We really wanted to visit some family members, but otherwise it looks like we should just make a trip to New Zealand for a couple of weeks.

We are probably just overreacting, we just want to get everything right,
thank you for reading our text book wall!
Hi, as far as I understood, your grant letter will include 2 dates:

-) a first entry date, which will be needed to activate your visa
-) a second entry date, which is the last day before your 9 months visa expires.

So, I would suggest you not to make any travel plans, since if you do not make it into the country within the first entry date (which usually is related to the expiration of health checks and criminal records), your visa will not be activated, hence canceled.

Here a related post
https://www.australiaforum.com/visas...dates-pmv.html

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Thank you so much for the linked thread, really helpful!

One of the clearances was made in March of 2019 and it seems like that will pose a problem if we did end up doing the 3 months from now, every other health/police was August 2019 and June 2019.

It seems like police and health checks are valid for 12 months, correct?

We are being asked to start looking into some flight options, it's looking like if anything we should just do New Zealand for the week.

I've messaged the person assigned to our case earlier about this but from what you sent me it's looking like we don't have an option haha

Thank you a lot, didn't expect such a quick reply!


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Thank you so much for the linked thread, really helpful!

One of the clearances was made in March of 2019 and it seems like that will pose a problem if we did end up doing the 3 months from now, every other health/police was August 2019 and June 2019.

It seems like police and health checks are valid for 12 months, correct?

We are being asked to start looking into some flight options, it's looking like if anything we should just do New Zealand for the week.

I've messaged the person assigned to our case earlier about this but from what you sent me it's looking like we don't have an option haha

Thank you a lot, didn't expect such a quick reply!
Hi Pavlova! Yes, so I think your first entry date will be linked to the expiration of the first provided clearance expiring in March 2020.

Happy to be helpful! Good luck


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We had the same situation, 12 month visitor while waiting for PMV.

16 Feb. Received email to leave Australia for grant decision.

Our grant letter, dated 14 March, said:

Grant Date: 14 March
Must make first entry before: 17 Aug
Must not arrive after: 14 December

17 Aug was the expiry date of Police check

We left Australia on Friday 11 March, grant was given on Monday 14 March, we arrived back in Australia on Fri 18 March.

The original notice to leave, for grant to be decided, included:

Please note that failure to depart Australia within the validity of your health (20 August 2016) and character (17 August 2016) clearances may result in your repeating these requirements.

Does your email have similar wording?

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FYI doing a cruise to South Pacific islands and/or New Zealand, does not meet the going offshore requirement.


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Yeah it was stated it to make sure to "depart Australia by airplane and not cruise ship otherwise you may not have legally departed Australia"

We were going to do New Zealand and going by plane, would that be alright?


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We had the same situation, 12 month visitor while waiting for PMV.

16 Feb. Received email to leave Australia for grant decision.

Our grant letter, dated 14 March, said:

Grant Date: 14 March
Must make first entry before: 17 Aug
Must not arrive after: 14 December

17 Aug was the expiry date of Police check

We left Australia on Friday 11 March, grant was given on Monday 14 March, we arrived back in Australia on Fri 18 March.

The original notice to leave, for grant to be decided, included:

Please note that failure to depart Australia within the validity of your health (20 August 2016) and character (17 August 2016) clearances may result in your repeating these requirements.

Does your email have similar wording?
No, there isn't any wording like that.
It's just something like:
Your case is on track for finalisation, you need to be
outside of Australia before the application can be finalised. Therefore, you may wish to start looking into some flight options and let me know about your travel plans.

Once your visa has been finalised, you will receive an email which will include your visa grant notice.
Please note the Prospective Marriage visa requires you to enter Australia at least once before you marry your fiancÚ.


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Yeah it was stated it to make sure to "depart Australia by airplane and not cruise ship otherwise you may not have legally departed Australia"

We were going to do New Zealand and going by plane, would that be alright?
That is fine.

Tip:- send itinerary when booked - send a reminder at the airport that you are leaving. A few days after you arrive in NZ, remind them you are offshore. Do not return to Australia without the grant - the above prompts should make sure they do not forget you (has happened before). Many have the grant/refusal by the time they get to the destination.


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Not sure if it is different for visa types but our first entry date was also the date of the police check so if your police check was August then I guess that possibly means you would have time between Jan and July ?

But it probably isn't something you want to risk

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