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Old 02-17-2020, 09:36 AM
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Form 888 in support of PMV.

I am an Australian citizen. Fiancee is Kenyan. We are currently, preparing Form 888 in support of PMV. My friends/family are writing statements.

Question 1. States: How long have you known this person? Referring to my fiancee.

My friends and parents have “known” her through me for the last 3 years and have spoken to her. However, they never saw her physically face to face apart from talking to her on WhatsApp and skype videos. I have also shared our pictures with them and our NOIM and they are invited to our wedding.

The only persons who actually saw my fiancee is my sister and niece when we travelled to Kenya last year.

So is the answer to this question 0 or 3 years for parents and Australian friends completing Form 888, who haven’t physically met her?

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I am an Australian citizen. Fiancee is Kenyan. We are currently, preparing Form 888 in support of PMV. My friends/family are writing statements.

Question 1. States: How long have you known this person? Referring to my fiancee.

My friends and parents have “known” her through me for the last 3 years and have spoken to her. However, they never saw her physically face to face apart from talking to her on WhatsApp and skype videos. I have also shared our pictures with them and our NOIM and they are invited to our wedding.

The only persons who actually saw my fiancee is my sister and niece when we travelled to Kenya last year.

So is the answer to this question 0 or 3 years for parents and Australian friends completing Form 888, who haven’t physically met her?

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3 years should be the answer. 0 will not look good for you

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It would be hard to argue that you knew someone you have never physically met.
As for making a Statutory Declaration,
I would use the same caution I give to anyone who makes a Statutory Declaration or Oath to me as a Justice of the Peace.
The Oaths Act 1900 (Cth) regulates the administration of oaths and affirmations in Australia.

Section 25 of the Act provides that:

“In all cases where by this Part, or under the authority thereof, or by virtue of any power or authority hereby given, a declaration:

is substituted in lieu of an oath or affidavit, or
is directed or authorised to be made and subscribed, although not substituted in lieu of an oath or affidavit,
any person who wilfully and corruptly makes and subscribes any such declaration, knowing the same to be untrue in any material particular, shall be guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for 5 years.”

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Thank you so much for the quick and to the point answer.


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You say your sister and neice have met her, ask them to make a declaration.

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You say your sister and neice have met her, ask them to make a declaration.
My sister has done one. My niece is under 18. Migration agent recommended 5-10 statements.


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My sister has done one. My niece is under 18. Migration agent recommended 5-10 statements.
We did 2 of the form 888's, the minimum required number. 5 to 10 sounds well above normal.

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Old 02-17-2020, 12:04 PM
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We did 2 of the form 888's, the minimum required number. 5 to 10 sounds well above normal.
Yes, But maybe Kenya is considered a high-risk country, hence the advice. Fiancee has 2 statements from her side and I am aiming for four 888s from Australia.

Getting conflicting advice regarding Q1 on here, so may approach agent again, which I see on a needs basis. We are doing the process mostly on our own.

Many thanks for the responses.


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Yes, But maybe Kenya is considered a high-risk country, hence the advice. Fiancee has 2 statements from her side and I am aiming for four 888s from Australia.
Philippines is also considered a high risk country too.

But, I suppose the more the better.

On the other point, many people know people by internet these days, and if explained well in the next section, it could be OK, especially with so many, and again especially for a PMV.

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We did statutory declarations in lieu of the form 888. People wrote statements answering similar information as to what was asked in the form 888, but for those that hadn’t met my partner in real life and only knew of him through me and online, it meant they didn’t have to answer that one specific question, they instead answered how they knew of him and what they knew of our relationship.


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