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Old 05-28-2020, 06:34 AM
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309 or 100 entry

Hello,

I want just bit of clarification. If I do qualify for 309 and also 100 visa straight away, which one I will enter country?

I know I do qualify for 100 visa now, but how is it working in the real world? If I can get both do I enter country on 100 and do I have also have same 1 year to enter the country or there is different measure?

I know usually people need to wait 2 years to apply for the 100 visa which will give them permanent residency status. But for people who have been long time together they can get both visas in same time. How this work?

I know when I lodge the application I pay for both in the same time. And perhaps when I qualify the 100 override the 309? Something like that?

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Old 05-28-2020, 07:15 AM
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Hello,

I want just bit of clarification. If I do qualify for 309 and also 100 visa straight away, which one I will enter country?

I know I do qualify for 100 visa now, but how is it working in the real world? If I can get both do I enter country on 100 and do I have also have same 1 year to enter the country or there is different measure?

I know usually people need to wait 2 years to apply for the 100 visa which will give them permanent residency status. But for people who have been long time together they can get both visas in same time. How this work?

I know when I lodge the application I pay for both in the same time. And perhaps when I qualify the 100 override the 309? Something like that?

Thank you

Vicky
If you are granted the 100, the 309 will no longer be active.


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Old 05-28-2020, 07:18 AM
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Thank you. Does the 100 has also 1 year to enter? Or how it works?


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Thank you. Does the 100 has also 1 year to enter? Or how it works?
That would be shown on the grant. I thought that entry times varied based on various factors.


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Old 05-28-2020, 07:36 AM
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Oh thank you.

Silly me I didn't look properly at Immi websites. Yes you are right, it shows on the grant letter and it's usually same 1 year as 309 visa.

'' If you are outside Australia at the time of visa grant you must enter Australia before the date specified in your grant letter. The first entry date is generally set at 12 months from the date of visa grant.''

I just looked many many times for all sorts of 309 information's, but never looked so much into the 100.


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Old 05-28-2020, 07:39 AM
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How long you can stay
This is a permanent visa. It lets you stay in Australia indefinitely.

You become a permanent resident on the day we grant the visa.

For citizenship purposes, your permanent residency starts on the day:

we grant the visa if you are in Australia
you enter Australia on this visa if you are outside Australia

just a bit info from IMMI websites


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Old 05-29-2020, 12:31 AM
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You will apply for 309, then you can write a statement with full story since you have met your partner with strong evidence, such as, you have been together for 3 years or you have a child from this relationship. Later on, the case officer will has the decision if you are elgible for 100 or just 309.

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Visa #1: (309/100) From Saudi Arabia
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Visa Granted: 8/08/2018

100 - applied in 2nd Jan 2020
Granted: 15th May 2020

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Old 05-29-2020, 08:13 AM
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Hello,
Thank you for reply.

We have been together 7 years and having 2 kids together 5 and 6 years old. I was piling up evidence in 2016, but we didn't applied then. That time I was here on this forum searching for all sorts of information's which could be helpful to us.

Once I had noticed, that someone wrote something like that even when you qualify for 100 you may not get it anyway or it may not be straight forward. Or that you may need to fight for it. (something like that)

Now I am back at this forum at 2020 and nothing much changed since, but I can't find so many Threads regarding this.

At this moment I am just checking here and there if something changed, rules changed or anything else. So I am not sure how many people entered on 100 visa from offshore. We are based in UK, kids British and will apply for Australian citizenship, partner dual citizenship.

We are well aware that even if we are married we still have to do exactly the same paperwork as being partners.

As I mentioned above, I have not find any thread regarding entering on 100 or receiving the 100 straight away or similar(depends how people name it here).

Most people entering on 309 I assume, so even my research was mainly concentrating on 309 ...yes my priority WAS and IS to get the 309 right and if we do also qualify at the same time for 100 visa is just a bonus to us.

So I never really looked too much into it, I am aware of the option of getting both in same time, but my focus stay on the 309 visa.


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Old 05-29-2020, 10:52 AM
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Hello,
Thank you for reply.

We have been together 7 years and having 2 kids together 5 and 6 years old. I was piling up evidence in 2016, but we didn't applied then. That time I was here on this forum searching for all sorts of information's which could be helpful to us.

Once I had noticed, that someone wrote something like that even when you qualify for 100 you may not get it anyway or it may not be straight forward. Or that you may need to fight for it. (something like that)

Now I am back at this forum at 2020 and nothing much changed since, but I can't find so many Threads regarding this.

At this moment I am just checking here and there if something changed, rules changed or anything else. So I am not sure how many people entered on 100 visa from offshore. We are based in UK, kids British and will apply for Australian citizenship, partner dual citizenship.

We are well aware that even if we are married we still have to do exactly the same paperwork as being partners.

As I mentioned above, I have not find any thread regarding entering on 100 or receiving the 100 straight away or similar(depends how people name it here).

Most people entering on 309 I assume, so even my research was mainly concentrating on 309 ...yes my priority WAS and IS to get the 309 right and if we do also qualify at the same time for 100 visa is just a bonus to us.

So I never really looked too much into it, I am aware of the option of getting both in same time, but my focus stay on the 309 visa.
Quite a few people get the 100 straight away, especially those with children, and over 2 years relationship.

Even during the COVID lockdown, a number of foreign partners overseas are going direct to PR, if they are proving substantial relationships. Almost 25% went direct to 100 from what I have seen.

I have seen these 21 so far this year, out of 87 of the subclass 309/100 applications finalised in 2020, (that I have seen on the forums):
  • 309 Applied Apr 2019 Passport: ?. Processed at: Berlin, Germany. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 8.8 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied Mar 2019 Passport: UK. Processed at: ?. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 10.1 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied Apr 2019 Passport: Malaysia. Processed at: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 8.6 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied May 2019 Passport: UK. Processed at: ?. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 8 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied Mar 2019 Passport: UK. Processed at: ?. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 10.1 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied Apr 2019 Passport: Serbia. Processed at: Belgrade, Serbia. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 9.2 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied Apr 2019 Passport: UK. Processed at: ?. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 9 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied May 2019 Passport: Sweden. Processed at: Berlin, Germany. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 8 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied Apr 2019 Passport: UK. Processed at: ?. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 9 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied Oct 2018 Passport: South Africa. Processed at: Pretoria, South Africa. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 15.6 months on: Jan 2020
  • 309 Applied May 2019 Passport: UK. Processed at: UK. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 8.4 months on: Feb 2020
  • 309 Applied May 2019 Passport: ?. Processed at: Berlin, Germany. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 9.2 months on: Feb 2020
  • 309 Applied May 2019 Passport: Hungary. Processed at: Berlin, Germany. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 8.7 months on: Feb 2020
  • 309 Applied Jun 2019 Passport: ?. Processed at: ?. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 7.8 months on: Feb 2020
  • 309 Applied Sep 2019 Passport: USA. Processed at: USA. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 4.8 months on: Feb 2020
  • 309 Applied May 2019 Passport: Spain. Processed at: London, UK. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 9.5 months on: Mar 2020
  • 309 Applied Dec 2019 Passport: Netherlands. Processed at: Berlin, Germany. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 3.1 months on: Mar 2020
  • 309 Applied Aug 2019 Passport: Canada. Processed at: Ottawa, Canada. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 7.6 months on: Apr 2020
  • 309 Applied Oct 2019 Passport: ?. Processed at: Hong Kong. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 6.1 months on: Apr 2020
  • 309 Applied Sep 2019 Passport: Hong Kong. Processed at: Hong Kong. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 6.9 months on: Apr 2020
  • 309 Applied May 2019 Passport: USA. Processed at: ?. Direct to 100. 309/100 granted after 11.8 months on: May 2020

That 25% figure is probably higher than normal, as the subclass 100 might be getting priority over the 309s, during the overseas processing.


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