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Old 07-13-2020, 11:03 AM
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Post Petition to waive quarantine fees for partner/child/carer visas

Hello all,

I only just came across this forum today. My wife and I (JPN and AUS) were married last year and applied for 309/100 v isa in December.

We are are worried of the financial implications that governments are now passing on fees from the mandatory quarantine to individuals. It would be very appreciated if you could take a look at the petition we have created, share and sign if you also support it.

Here is the link: http://chng.it/QpW7G7Z4pM

I look forward to sharing our experience and getting to know you all

Jay


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Old 07-13-2020, 11:34 AM
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The governments are in a bind over this.

They need to cut down on the cost to the taxpayer. ie: Stop paying for quarantine, and make users pay.

They also need to find a way to free up jobs for locals. ie: Maybe reduce immigration temporarily until this is over. Making visa processing take even longer is one way.

I can't see them agreeing that increasing taxpayers costs and bringing in more people, would solve that issue.

There are however options for people in hardship, to be exempt from quarantine fees.

There is of course also every chance that these fees will have ended by the time you get your visa.

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Old 07-13-2020, 12:14 PM
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I can understand their want to reduce the burden on taxpayers, but I believe the incredibly vast majority of people returning to Australia are not visa holders that I have outlined.

The reason I have included those visa types in the petition, is because they all:
1) have exorbitant, unjustifiable upfront fees, and
2) play a vital role in a current Australian permenant resident or citizen's life: a spouse/partner, child or carer.

Secondly, I understand jobs are something that many current Australians would want to keep for 'us'... But it has been shown that migration has a net positive effect on the economy and does not negatively correlate with less job availablity. See this article by SBS: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/we-need-m...qualifications

Extending visa wait times that are already ridiculously long is not a good way to handle it either, morally.


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Old 07-13-2020, 01:37 PM
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I can understand their want to reduce the burden on taxpayers, but I believe the incredibly vast majority of people returning to Australia are not visa holders that I have outlined.

The reason I have included those visa types in the petition, is because they all:
1) have exorbitant, unjustifiable upfront fees, and
2) play a vital role in a current Australian permenant resident or citizen's life: a spouse/partner, child or carer.

Secondly, I understand jobs are something that many current Australians would want to keep for 'us'... But it has been shown that migration has a net positive effect on the economy and does not negatively correlate with less job availablity. See this article by SBS: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/we-need-m...qualifications

Extending visa wait times that are already ridiculously long is not a good way to handle it either, morally.
Returning citizens also have to pay the cost not just visa holders, you can't exactly expect citizens to be required to pay but not certain visa holders

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Old 07-13-2020, 02:52 PM
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If you have difficulty paying, there's a provision to apply to have the hotel quarantine fee waived or reduced by claiming financial hardship. But in Australia, taxpayers are getting fed up with footing the bill for the hotel quarantine. Quarantine also includes security, ADF guards, transport, logistics etc which arrivals are not charged for on their return. You'll find the goodwill is running low at the moment, especially when returned travellers complain about the hotel conditions, whine about the food, etc. And some have even tried to sneak out of quarantine. Most coronavirus cases in Australia are from returned travellers, so quarantine is necessary. If you're found to be positive, you get proper medical treatment - again, all paid for by the taxpayer. No one begrudges patients getting proper medical care. That's the way it should be.


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Old 07-13-2020, 10:45 PM
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In the current climate, where the general public have begrudged paying for the costs of their fellow citizens quarantine, politicians are hardly likely to fly in the face of public opinion and not charge migrants. While to us the granting of a visa to our partners is paramount, the general public are indifferent at best, or in many cases outright hostile, towards more people coming into Australia from overseas at this time, even expats returning home are being criticised for not returning sooner.

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You must not be aware that there are plenty of TR visa holders working in Australia paying into the tax base that have been paying for people to quarantine without a single cent for their own needs during the "pandemic" from the government. It is very selfish to ask these people as well to continue to pay for others that want to travel back to Australia, especially those that are stuck from traveling themselves for fear they may not be allowed to return, even if they too have an Australian partner! I can't see your petition getting very far.

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Old 07-14-2020, 02:01 AM
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I can understand their want to reduce the burden on taxpayers, but I believe the incredibly vast majority of people returning to Australia are not visa holders that I have outlined.

The reason I have included those visa types in the petition, is because they all:
1) have exorbitant, unjustifiable upfront fees, and
2) play a vital role in a current Australian permenant resident or citizen's life: a spouse/partner, child or carer.

Secondly, I understand jobs are something that many current Australians would want to keep for 'us'... But it has been shown that migration has a net positive effect on the economy and does not negatively correlate with less job availablity. See this article by SBS: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/we-need-m...qualifications

Extending visa wait times that are already ridiculously long is not a good way to handle it either, morally.
Australian Citizens have to pay quarantine fees too, even just moving from one state to another. eg one headline:
"Residents returning home to Queensland who have been in Victoria will be required to hotel quarantine, at their own expense."

One would have to ask why a foreign citizen, having decided to join their spouse in Australia, should get priority over an Australian citizen or Permanent Resident, who just wants to return to their own home and family.

As far as the jobs situation goes. There are very few jobs at the moment, with millions laid off due to COVID. Bringing more people in, at this moment in time, would not appear to be sensible.
"millions of Australians have been left unemployed, stood down or had their hours reduced due to COVID-19 restrictions."
Your link does show good reasons for skilled migration having a net positive effect on the Australia. This, to many people, highlights the need to split the visa grants more towards 'skilled visas' rather than 'family visas'. Although maybe not until the jobs situation has normalised.

The "exorbitant, unjustifiable upfront fees" for a partner visa, have actually been justified as one way to try to reduce the numbers of partner visa applications. There are more applications each year than there are visas available.

I can understand the feeling of wanting the taxpayer to pay for individuals quarantine costs, but I can't see any of the governments doing anything to change the current direction of trying to stop people moving or coming in to the country.

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Old 07-14-2020, 02:46 AM
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I think most tax payers are already tired of paying for the quarantine costs of returning citizens, so few will want to pay for new visa holders who now want to come to Australia. In fact many will agree that the government should have stopped covering the costs earlier than they are.

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Old 07-14-2020, 07:22 AM
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I signed the petition but agree with many comments above.

Many returning citizens and PR holders have had much time to arrive back in Australia (but chose not to ) and get free the quarantine on arrival - Family Stream has not had that luxury and never a clue on when that grant will come. It can be as little as 6 week or greater than 2 years & never a word said to the applicants. Often many couples or families are forced to be apart creating dual households to maintain.

As we saw on SBS a few weeks ago, the wait can break the camels back. I suspect many backs have been broken.

There is certainly fat in the partner fee cost for such assistance, but that is another topic.

All applicants that applied prior to March should be considered for free quarantine or onshore sponsors and kids to be included for free ( applicant pays but not partner or kids) for the 2 week quarantine, as at time of application it was never thought this was possible.

Of the Family Stream the ones that are really hit the hardest are the PMV applications - I feel for them.

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