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Old 07-18-2020, 05:57 AM
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Partner Subclass 820/801- Help!

Hi everyone

Hope all are keeping well in these uncertain times.

Although we still have a long wait ahead as the 820 visa was only submitted in April 2020, I'm seeking some clarification re the 801 visa process. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

1) If the 820 visa is granted prior to the 2 years waiting period ie before we're eligible to apply for the 801, is there any ways we could apply for the 801 sooner? I've heard some people mentioned that if the couple is in a long term relationship then the 801 application could be lodged sooner than the 2 years period. Is this true?

We've been in a long distance relationship for 8 years, never lived together until my husband arrival in Australia in Feb 2020. He's currently on the PMV 300 visa. I'm unsure whether our situation would be qualified for the 'long term relationship' criteria?


2) In relation to the witness supporting statement for the 801 application stage ie form 888, is it better that the witness is someone else other than those used for the 820 application or the same persons can be used?

3) I didn't realised ones would need to submit the 801 application separately once the 820 is granted as the Dept's website indicates the fees paid covered both visa types. Does that means I have to submit all the required supporting documentations that was used for the 820 again or just new evidence ie evidence posted the 820 granted date? If it's the former, then what kind of evidence would be useful? I'm concern that we don't have much new evidence due to the imposed lockdown as a result of the Covid 19 pandemic.

Thanks in advance for your guidance and assistance.

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Although we still have a long wait ahead as the 820 visa was only submitted in April 2020, I'm seeking some clarification re the 801 visa process. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

1) If the 820 visa is granted prior to the 2 years waiting period ie before we're eligible to apply for the 801, is there any ways we could apply for the 801 sooner? I've heard some people mentioned that if the couple is in a long term relationship then the 801 application could be lodged sooner than the 2 years period. Is this true?

We've been in a long distance relationship for 8 years, never lived together until my husband arrival in Australia in Feb 2020. He's currently on the PMV 300 visa. I'm unsure whether our situation would be qualified for the 'long term relationship' criteria?
If you have been living together, or in a marriage like relationship for 3 years, at the time of application, or 2 years if you have children, they may grant the 801 immediately after the 820.

If you were eligible for that, then the PMV would have been the wrong starter.

Other than that, you submit stage 2, the 801, 24 months after you submitted the 820 application.

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2) In relation to the witness supporting statement for the 801 application stage ie form 888, is it better that the witness is someone else other than those used for the 820 application or the same persons can be used?
Either. Some people use the same ones. Others use different.

For the 801, we used one the same and one different.
For the 820 we used the same as the 300.

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3) I didn't realised ones would need to submit the 801 application separately once the 820 is granted as the Dept's website indicates the fees paid covered both visa types. Does that means I have to submit all the required supporting documentations that was used for the 820 again or just new evidence ie evidence posted the 820 granted date? If it's the former, then what kind of evidence would be useful? I'm concern that we don't have much new evidence due to the imposed lockdown as a result of the Covid 19 pandemic.
For stage 2 of the 820/801 you submit proof of relationship since the 820.

Anything that shows you are together. Photos, joint accounts, photos of letters or parcels addressed to you both at the same address, Insurance with both names, Joint wills, etc.

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Thanks JandE for your prompt response as always

We weren't living together nor married so weren't eligible to apply for the partner visa. Also it appears the processing time for the PMV is slightly quicker than the Partner ones so we opted for the PMV option.

Just hoping that holding the PMV may speed up the approval process for the 820 a little, fingers crossed

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Thanks JandE for your prompt response as always

We weren't living together nor married so weren't eligible to apply for the partner visa. Also it appears the processing time for the PMV is slightly quicker than the Partner ones so we opted for the PMV option.

Just hoping that holding the PMV may speed up the approval process for the 820 a little, fingers crossed

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The 820 from the PMV is normally faster than a standard 820.

Ours were:
8.9 Months processing time for subclass 300.
3.2 Months processing time for subclass 820.
9.4 Months processing time for subclass 801.
TOTAL 44 Months processing time from subclass 300 application to 801 Grant

However, it can vary a lot.

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Hi JandE

Much appreciated the information provided.

Our PMV took 13 months to get to the grant stage.

If the 820 application reaches 24 months and we still don't hear of its outcome, can we proceed with the 801 application or need to wait till the 820 is granted?

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Hi JaneE

Based on my calculation, your time frames from 300 to 801 appeared to be 21.5 months rather than 44 months? Maybe I can't add?

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Hi JaneE

Based on my calculation, your time frames from 300 to 801 appeared to be 21.5 months rather than 44 months? Maybe I can't add?

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It is all the extra compulsory waiting time that bumps up the total time.

22/6/15: 300 Application
14/3/16: 300 Granted. 8.9 Months processing time for subclass 300.

Time needed to get married then do the 820. (2 months wait)

14/5/16: 820 Application
18/8/16: 820 Granted. 3.2 Months processing time for subclass 820.

Then needed to wait for the remainder of the 24 months from the 820 Application, before doing the 801. (21 months wait)

14/5/18: 801 Application Eligibility Date.
20/2/19: 801 Granted: 9.4 Months processing time for subclass 801.

22 June 2015 to 20 Feb 2019 almost 4 years. (3 years and 8 months).

Even if the 820 had taken 20 months longer, it would not have changed the total time of 44 months.

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Hi JandE

Much appreciated the information provided.

Our PMV took 13 months to get to the grant stage.

If the 820 application reaches 24 months and we still don't hear of its outcome, can we proceed with the 801 application or need to wait till the 820 is granted?

Thanks
NB
You can keep uploading relationship proofs and hope they grant the 801 without further stage 2 application. Sometimes they do.

But to apply for the 801, I think you need the 820 grant.

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