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Old 09-29-2020, 12:24 PM
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The “upfront” payment is paid into a clients’ or trust account and held in that account until the work is completed, so the incentive is 100% there to get the work done on time as these funds cannot be released until it is. If the work has not been done and the client requests that the contract is ended, the RMA must return any funds deposited that relate to incomplete tasks.

I think it is completely wrong to suggest that “all” RMAs take on too many clients just to “get $$$$”. Maybe a few do this, but there are good operators and bad operators in all industries and reputable professionals want to do a good job for all their clients. In my experience most RMAs will go ‘above and beyond’ for clients rather than do the bare minimum. Of course, in a highly regulated environment, we need to stick to the rules and are governed by legislation in this. Illegal and/or unregistered operators will have no such scruples.

I tell all my potential partner visa clients that if they want to spend the time to do all the background research then of course they could lodge their own application and will likely be successful. However, the number of questions that get asked regularly on this and other forums suggest that the available information is not necessarily easy to find, accurate or helpful. My job is to make the process easier and less stressful, particularly if the clients have better things to do with their time.
My experience with our RMA was horrible, whilst we got the desired result, it all seemed very non-committal after the point of payment.

I can say with 100% accuracy until the point we paid, our RMA did not respond to us once, not even once, from the first time we got in touch with email or phone call. Can you imagine yourself countless emails and phone call followups for updates going unanswered for a period of 2 years?

Another disappointment was that we had a very clear and verbal agreement that the RMA will provide me monthly status updates (which correct me if I'm wrong, is reasonable to ask for according to the RMA expected Code of Conduct) at the start of each month which again not even once was done and i constantly had to call 2-3 times or email 1-2 times to remind them for 11 months...

Whilst I admit there was 1 particular situation where they did come through on an unexpected minor complication (wifes surname changed after we married and the HAP ID generated contained her maiden name at time of lodgement) the rest we could have done ourselves. The most frustrating part was not knowing and losing that trust/faith in the RMA representing us correctly.

Perhaps we just got unlucky but having spoken to other people at work, functions etc there was a trend that most people were in similar shoes to us which begs the question as to why.

I think having someone represent you is certainly a nice to have but not essential. I'm confident its a difficult position to keep up with constant migration changes, volume of applications etc but i strongly feel that there still needs to be a bonus incentive for a successful application.


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Old 09-29-2020, 12:27 PM
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My comment is far from pointless, you openly admit that you you have to be accurate in your application , despite the fact that your posts were contradictory .
As for the need for an agent It is debatable, from some of the questions asked here , some people have absolutely no idea what to do.
After all not everyone who applies has been married for 20 years.


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Old 09-29-2020, 12:46 PM
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My comment is far from pointless, you openly admit that you you have to be accurate in your application , despite the fact that your posts were contradictory .
As for the need for an agent It is debatable, from some of the questions asked here , some people have absolutely no idea what to do.
After all not everyone who applies has been married for 20 years.

I don't know what your point exactly is.
When you explain your story on a forum you don't go into such details as when you meet, got engaged and married to the exact length of time especially when it spans over 20 years... But when you do your visa application, of course you're accurate and report the truth.
Everybody can see that.
You must have hidden interests to try to point people towards RMA.
Dont you think people pay enough to the immigration department?
People need reassurance that applying for a visa is easy. As long as your eligible, you'll get it. No more no less. It's not debatable.


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Old 09-29-2020, 12:49 PM
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My comment is far from pointless, you openly admit that you you have to be accurate in your application , despite the fact that your posts were contradictory .
As for the need for an agent It is debatable, from some of the questions asked here , some people have absolutely no idea what to do.
After all not everyone who applies has been married for 20 years.

I don't know what your point exactly is.
When you explain your story on a forum you don't go into such details as when you meet, got engaged and married to the exact length of time especially when it spans over 20 years... But when you do your visa application, of course you're accurate and report the truth.
Everybody can see that.
You must have hidden interests to try to point people towards RMA.
Dont you think people pay enough to the immigration department?
People need reassurance that applying for a visa is easy. As long as your eligible, you'll get it. No more no less. It's not debatable.
And the title if this thread is "how difficult is it to apply?". Not "do I need a RMA?".
So the answer is "not difficult at all"


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And the title if this thread is "how difficult is it to apply?". Not "do I need a RMA?".
So the answer is "not difficult at all"
Veronique,

Not sure why you seem so antagonistic towards the concept of an RMA. I think the answer is entirely subjective and the value of an RMA for partner visas entirely up to the individual. Complexity of situation, level of English, comfort with paperwork, time available, resilience to stress, etc etc. To some it will be 3k well spent, to others it will be 3k wasted.

Your personal situation may have lent itself to managing your own application (my own is not dissimilar and I have also applied without an agent) but having dealt with some more complicated immigration issues in the past I can definitely see the value of professional help if circumstances warrant.

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And the title if this thread is "how difficult is it to apply?". Not "do I need a RMA?".
So the answer is "not difficult at all"
Veronique,

Not sure why you seem so antagonistic towards the concept of an RMA. I think the answer is entirely subjective and the value of an RMA for partner visas entirely up to the individual. Complexity of situation, level of English, comfort with paperwork, time available, resilience to stress, etc etc. To some it will be 3k well spent, to others it will be 3k wasted.

Your personal situation may have lent itself to managing your own application (my own is not dissimilar and I have also applied without an agent) but having dealt with some more complicated immigration issues in the past I can definitely see the value of professional help if circumstances warrant.
Taco,

The purpose of this thread is : how difficult is it to apply for an onshore visa?"
It's not about using the services of an RMA or not.
And the answer to the question is : no it's not difficult at all.

I don't even know how the question of using an RMA came into the discussion. But let's face it, if an applicant is able to come on this forum, he's able to apply. Why would he pay a surcharge of almost 40% for something which is really easy to do.

What people who are hesitant to do it themselves need is to be comforted in their choice to go solo. It is NOT complicated AT ALL.
Documents will have to be uploaded directly, but they would have to be provided to an RMA anyway. What's the difference between uploading them yourself or forwarding them to an RMA? Nothing but 3000$ difference...

Being successful in getting a visa a such an important issue in someone's life, that it's very easy to make people believing that they have to pay an additional 40% fee.
We're not talking about few $, we're talking about an outrageous amount of money compare to the cost of the visa (which in itself is already a huge amount...).

If I did it by myself, anybody can do it. And in doubt, people in this forum will answer questions. For free. And it will be correct because we all have been though the process.
Be confident in yourselves....


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What is 100% true is nobody needs an RMA.
Wether you like it or not

Utter rubbish!

I use to know a lot more than many on this subject & your comment is not true.

If I were to apply for another partner visa as a sponsor, I would be an idiot not to use a RMA - it would most likely fail and I would need to appeal.

The OP should start the collection of docs and process the application, if they are not confident prior to lodgement then consider using an RMA. But this course depends on the applicants country, they are not all equal.


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What is 100% true is nobody needs an RMA.
Wether you like it or not

Utter rubbish!

I use to know a lot more than many on this subject & your comment is not true.

If I were to apply for another partner visa as a sponsor, I would be an idiot not to use a RMA - it would most likely fail and I would need to appeal.

The OP should start the collection of docs and process the application, if they are not confident prior to lodgement then consider using an RMA. But this course depends on the applicants country, they are not all equal.

Australia is not a banana republic and treat people from different country equally.
Using an RMA doesn't affect the outcome. Of your case deserves a visa, you'll get it. With or without an RMA.
Just scroll a bit further and read Brian's post it's self explanatory.
Trying to make people believing they will be more successful if they accept a rip-off of almost 40% is insane.
So once again the question was "how difficult is it to apply for an onshore visa".
An once again the answer is : not difficult at all.


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Australia is not a banana republic and treat people from different country equally.
Using an RMA doesn't affect the outcome. Of your case deserves a visa, you'll get it. With or without an RMA.
Just scroll a bit further and read Brian's post it's self explanatory.
Trying to make people believing they will be more successful if they accept a rip-off of almost 40% is insane.
So once again the question was "how difficult is it to apply for an onshore visa".
An once again the answer is : not difficult at all.
Nobody was talking about that the RMA effects the outcome. It is only about the way to get to the desired outcome and to get there the RMA can certainly help. As others and I mentioned, it's about time, knowledge of English, motivation, etc..

I also wouldn't say it is not difficult at all. It takes a lot of effort to read through everything and prepare everything plus doing it the right way. Everyone will get confused or questions things at one or many points during the application process. If you don't want that, fine, get the RMA's help. That's what they do.

It is not fair to say they are a rip off or useless. I heard stories about them being not honest and giving people false hopes too but with a bit research you can find a good one.


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Australia is not a banana republic and treat people from different country equally.
Using an RMA doesn't affect the outcome. Of your case deserves a visa, you'll get it. With or without an RMA.
Just scroll a bit further and read Brian's post it's self explanatory.
Trying to make people believing they will be more successful if they accept a rip-off of almost 40% is insane.
So once again the question was "how difficult is it to apply for an onshore visa".
An once again the answer is : not difficult at all.
Nobody was talking about that the RMA effects the outcome. It is only about the way to get to the desired outcome and to get there the RMA can certainly help. As others and I mentioned, it's about time, knowledge of English, motivation, etc..

I also wouldn't say it is not difficult at all. It takes a lot of effort to read through everything and prepare everything plus doing it the right way. Everyone will get confused or questions things at one or many points during the application process. If you don't want that, fine, get the RMA's help. That's what they do.

It is not fair to say they are a rip off or useless. I heard stories about them being not honest and giving people false hopes too but with a bit research you can find a good one.
I like your last sentence "with about of research you can find a good RMA".
You must be kidding me. The simple fact that research is required to find a good RMA shoes how bent it is.

Once again, it is NOT hard not complicated to apply directly.
Stop scaring people. As long as you can read, write and upload a dicument, there us absolutely necessary need if a very very expensive 3rd party.
What people need us encouragement to go ahead. Not discouragement.
If you're capable to be on this forum, you're capable to apply yourself.


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