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Gerryat 09-28-2020 05:22 PM

How difficult is it to apply for an onshore relationship visa ourselves?
 
Hi. I'm Australian and have been with my partner for nearly 6 years. We were registered as a de facto couple in Victoria 2016. Since then we have lived overseas together and now want to return.

I'd like to think our case is quite strong but just how complex is it to apply by ourselves? I'm not terrible with paperwork, I can see what's needed but it's hard to tell whether it gets very complicated or how very easy to make a error. We would love to spare the 3k usually associated with agents but I understand they'll help us a lot.

Thanks for any advice.

Aussie83 09-28-2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerryat (Post 2002411)
Hi. I'm Australian and have been with my partner for nearly 6 years. We were registered as a de facto couple in Victoria 2016. Since then we have lived overseas together and now want to return.

I'd like to think our case is quite strong but just how complex is it to apply by ourselves? I'm not terrible with paperwork, I can see what's needed but it's hard to tell whether it gets very complicated or how very easy to make a error. We would love to spare the 3k usually associated with agents but I understand they'll help us a lot.

Thanks for any advice.

So long as you are good with paperwork and research and take your time and there is no unusual circumstances to throw a wrench in then you should be fine

wrussell 09-28-2020 10:54 PM

It might pay you to consult one of the registerd migration agents who posts on this forum for an assessment.

Miner 09-29-2020 01:15 AM

You don't need an agent if:
-you can read the website from Home Affairs about the visa process and requirements
-you are in a genuine relationship
-you have some time to prepare everything
-you can use the search function in this forum and google

The process itself is not complicated and errors are unlikely to make (if you read before clicking buttons).

wrussell 09-29-2020 01:46 AM

Do you know how many partner visas are refused each year?
If you want to, work your way through this:
https://www.aat.gov.au/AAT/media/AAT...cs-2019-20.pdf

Miner 09-29-2020 03:33 AM

It doesn't give a reason why they are refused.
I'm sure they have good enough reasons to do so like fraud, laziness, don't read instructions, etc.

Fact is, if somebody can read, is in a genuine relationship, takes care with preparation of documents and has some time nobody needs an agent.
If anything of that is a problem or for peace of mind an agent might make sense.

Brian08 09-29-2020 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Miner (Post 2002425)
It doesn't give a reason why they are refused.
I'm sure they have good enough reasons to do so like fraud, laziness, don't read instructions, etc.

Fact is, if somebody can read, is in a genuine relationship, takes care with preparation of documents and has some time nobody needs an agent.
If anything of that is a problem or for peace of mind an agent might make sense.

Spot on.

If you have a solid/long relationship history with your partner and straightforward case eg no criminal convictions etc then I would STRONGLY recommend doing the application yourselves.

My wife & I went through an Registered Migration Agent with very good reviews online and it was all reasonably OK up until the part where you start following them up on updates or suggestions

Problem is once you pay them upfront (which 99.9% of RMA's seek, which is reasonable IMO), what incentive do they have to continue providing you the service after they have received your money? I realise there is a code of conduct they are responsible to provide you but have to say from our experiences and others weve heard from RMA's tend to follow very close to that line to what is expected of them and i recommend to have everything in writing so that you have evidence of contact. Could be a possibility they all take too many clients in (to get $$$$) but then are unable to cope with the demand afterwards.....

I do still recommend an initial meeting which cost us around $250 for about 45mins of advice explaining our situation and what visa to apply for etc.

amazingkitkat 09-29-2020 04:53 AM

If your case is straight forward, I could apply it yourself. I’ve done mine myself n got visa granted

Veronique en Australie 09-29-2020 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian08 (Post 2002427)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miner (Post 2002425)
It doesn't give a reason why they are refused.
I'm sure they have good enough reasons to do so like fraud, laziness, don't read instructions, etc.

Fact is, if somebody can read, is in a genuine relationship, takes care with preparation of documents and has some time nobody needs an agent.
If anything of that is a problem or for peace of mind an agent might make sense.

Spot on.

If you have a solid/long relationship history with your partner and straightforward case eg no criminal convictions etc then I would STRONGLY recommend doing the application yourselves.

My wife & I went through an Registered Migration Agent with very good reviews online and it was all reasonably OK up until the part where you start following them up on updates or suggestions

Problem is once you pay them upfront (which 99.9% of RMA's seek, which is reasonable IMO), what incentive do they have to continue providing you the service after they have received your money? I realise there is a code of conduct they are responsible to provide you but have to say from our experiences and others weve heard from RMA's tend to follow very close to that line to what is expected of them and i recommend to have everything in writing so that you have evidence of contact. Could be a possibility they all take too many clients in (to get $$$$) but then are unable to cope with the demand afterwards.....

I do still recommend an initial meeting which cost us around $250 for about 45mins of advice explaining our situation and what visa to apply for etc.

Hi,
If you can write and read and you can be bothered to upload all your documents, you DO NOT NEED an agent.
It's a very easy process and an agent doesn't speed it up.
The waiting time is the same with or without one and at least you control your application and know exactly what you've done if you do it yourself.
I'm french, have done it all by myself and got my permanent residency in less than 23 months....
Feel to ask questions if needed.
Vero

paulhand 09-29-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian08 (Post 2002427)
Spot on.

Problem is once you pay them upfront (which 99.9% of RMA's seek, which is reasonable IMO), what incentive do they have to continue providing you the service after they have received your money? I realise there is a code of conduct they are responsible to provide you but have to say from our experiences and others weve heard from RMA's tend to follow very close to that line to what is expected of them and i recommend to have everything in writing so that you have evidence of contact. Could be a possibility they all take too many clients in (to get $$$$) but then are unable to cope with the demand afterwards.....

I do still recommend an initial meeting which cost us around $250 for about 45mins of advice explaining our situation and what visa to apply for etc.

The “upfront” payment is paid into a clients’ or trust account and held in that account until the work is completed, so the incentive is 100% there to get the work done on time as these funds cannot be released until it is. If the work has not been done and the client requests that the contract is ended, the RMA must return any funds deposited that relate to incomplete tasks.

I think it is completely wrong to suggest that “all” RMAs take on too many clients just to “get $$$$”. Maybe a few do this, but there are good operators and bad operators in all industries and reputable professionals want to do a good job for all their clients. In my experience most RMAs will go ‘above and beyond’ for clients rather than do the bare minimum. Of course, in a highly regulated environment, we need to stick to the rules and are governed by legislation in this. Illegal and/or unregistered operators will have no such scruples.

I tell all my potential partner visa clients that if they want to spend the time to do all the background research then of course they could lodge their own application and will likely be successful. However, the number of questions that get asked regularly on this and other forums suggest that the available information is not necessarily easy to find, accurate or helpful. My job is to make the process easier and less stressful, particularly if the clients have better things to do with their time.


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