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Old 09-29-2013, 03:59 AM
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Visa help needed.. Please!!!

Hey everyone, i just joined today after reading countless threads on this site in regards to Visa immigration to Australia. I'm an Australian Citizen living in South Australia. I met my lovely Indonesian fiance back in March 2012 through an online dating website. Since then i have made 2 trips to her city Makassar in Indonesia, first in November 2012, and the second in June 2013. It was on the second trip in June this year that i asked her to marry me.

At this point we have decided to get married in September 2014(roughly 12 months from now) in Australia. But before that happens i have invited her and the mother to visit me and my family in Australia in a few months on a tourist/visitors visa. There's been a few complications for them to get it approved, but its looking pretty good so far for them to come.

I have a few concerns i need validation on. I have gone through the immi website and it all just seems confusing. What i want to happen is, that when my fiance comes to visit in December we want to start planning our wedding for September next year, then afterwards they will go back to Indonesia. From this point i have no idea what i should do next. I dont know what documents i need.

- Im not sure we have enough evidence to satisfy the australian immigration that our relationship is genuine. Our only means of contact has been through yahoo chat, skype, and facebook. And the trips i have made to Indonesia to visit her. I've looked at all the successful stories on here, and the amount of proof I've seen people say they put in the applications is way beyond anything i could provide.

- And secondly i do not have a stable job at this time, and it doesn't look like it will change in the near future. Im afraid it will affect the subclass 300 application.

- Due to financial hickups, I've had to move back home to save money for the applications and wedding. Im afraid it would look unfavorably on me to immi if they knew that i was living at home with my parents. And for the time being, my fiance will be living with me at home until i can save enough money. I fear this will limit my chances of success

I also need to know, thhat if my fiance is granted a PMV, and she comes here to marry me within the 9 months, can we apply for PRV as soon as the wedding is finished?. Can we apply while she is still in australia?. And is she allowed to stay in australia after we have submitted the PRV waiting from approval?..


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- And secondly i do not have a stable job at this time, and it doesn't look like it will change in the near future. Im afraid it will affect the subclass 300 application.

- Due to financial hickups, I've had to move back home to save money for the applications and wedding. Im afraid it would look unfavorably on me to immi if they knew that i was living at home with my parents. And for the time being, my fiance will be living with me at home until i can save enough money. I fear this will limit my chances of success
Hello, welcome and congratulations! I cannot answer all your questions, not are my answers a guarantee for anything, but we do have experience with these points.

We have not yet been approved or rejected, we have been waiting for 8 months and 5 days now, but our research has led us to believe above points do not have to be an issue.

My Aussie partner is unemployed (I am employed, was in The Netherlands when we left for Australia, and am now in Australia) and we live with his parents.

To prove we are not going to be a burden on the system, my mother-in-law (Aussie partner's mum) is willing to sign an Assurance of Support if needed. She makes a good living and can afford this. Look into what this entails. We included a statement from her in our application saying that if needed, she is happy to sign an AoS for me. She is willing to support me if needed. But I work and I work hard, so this will not physically be needed - but if they need the guarantee, they can have one, and 'bail' if requested.

Last but not least myself and my partner living with his family, to us, may have robbed us of having "shared bills" but my very proud-to-be-Aussie inlaws have seen us living together with them up close and it has enhanced our family bond - I am family, they are my family. Their support for our relationship because of this living arrangement, in my opinion, is stronger than anything. They wrote beautiful stat decs and would do anything for their son and me to be able to stay together. That is evidence, too. Love and family is evidence. If my in laws for a moment thought our relationship wasn't genuine, they would be the first in line to kick me out of the country. They are very protective of their home and culture.

We try to help out with bills and that can be evidence, too.

So look into Assurance of Support if needed. Prove however you can that she will not be a burden to Australia and she will be taken care of. And as for living with your parents - meh. We're very happy with his family. They have been a great support system and maybe they can be for you two, too.

Good luck!

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getting a Assurance of Support from my parents is all well and good, but my parents are retired, and live off government pension benefits. Is it possible to use other family members to sign a Assurance of Support that are not living at home.. Like for my sister for example?. could she write a document to show her financial support even though she lives with her husband?


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I appreciate the time people take to read my post, but is there anyone who may have been in a similar situation, provide a bit of light on my issues?. Im not sure how the process is handled for a Aussie/Indonesian relationships, and their respective immigration departments..


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I don't think you being on an unstable income would be a big problem to your visa application. It is more important to prove that your relationship is genuine as this is the main point for a PMV or partner visa.

Not sure whether you have read through this:
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1127.pdf

I think you probably want to apply for PMV, get married, then apply for partner visa.

While your partner is here on PMV, you can start to collect as many living together evidence as possible. Then after your marriage, you can lodge the application for a partner visa.


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I don't think you being on an unstable income would be a big problem to your visa application. It is more important to prove that your relationship is genuine as this is the main point for a PMV or partner visa.

I think you probably want to apply for PMV, get married, then apply for partner visa.

While your partner is here on PMV, you can start to collect as many living together evidence as possible. Then after your marriage, you can lodge the application for a partner visa.
Yes i read through the booklet, but it's so daunting. I should probably take a rest from all the reading I've done on this subject the past week. Really stressing me out. The issue i have with your last statement is that im pretty certain my fiance will not come straight away if granted a PMV. exactly how much time would be sufficient upon granted a PMV would be enough t gather evidence?, and what sort of evidence would be required?.. And can she stay here past her 9 month validity period of the PMV once we have applied for the PRV?. whats happens to her current visa if we applied onshore for the partner visa after the wedding?


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I think this is what gonna happen:

1. Your partner apply for PMV in Indonesia (no onshore application for PMV).

2. After being granted the visa, you have nine months to get married and she can come and live with you during this nine months. This is the good time to gather living together evidence.

3. You get married within nine months after being granted a PMV (because your PMV expired after nine months). And it is advisable to apply for partner visa before your PMV expired (because it is a bit cheaper).

As for the collection of evidence, you can refer to the following link, just to give you some idea to start with, everyone situation is different.
http://www.australiaforum.com/visas-...visa-tips.html

Normally, if you are granted a PMV, application to a partner visa subsequently would be easier since the DIBP already established that your relationship is genuine.

Focus on getting a PMV now. It is not that hard once you start working on it. Good luck.


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Thank you so much . You've certainly pointed me in the right direction. But I had planned on using a migrant agent here in Adelaide. So how does that work for my fiance if she will be in Indonesia at the time. Can i start the application on her behalf without having to travel to Indonesia?..

And im still confused on going from a PMV to a partner visa?.. while my fiance is here on here PMV, can she stay in Australia past the 9 months after we get married and we have applied for the partner visa, or does she have to go back to indonesia after the wedding and then apply?


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when you are married, you apply for the onshore partner visa before the PMV date expires, then she can stay .... I wish you all the happiness in the world, the whole process can be stressful


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PMV application only can be lodged offshore. But you can prepare all the necessary documents with your MA then courier them back to Indonesia. You don't have to be present physically since you are the sponsor and she is the applicant.

She is allowed to stay in Aus until the PMV expired if you do not lodge any partner visa application before the PMV expired.

Let say, her PMV expired on 1 Nov 2014. You get married on 1 Sep 2014 and lodge your partner visa application on 1 Oct 2014, then she will be granted a Bridging Visa A to allow her to stay in Australia until a decision on your partner visa application is made.


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