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Old 01-20-2010, 01:55 PM
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I read that concerning the reference letters and descriptions of your positions in a given company, it is not "enough" to merely describe ones position by generic titles such as for example "product manager" og "technical manager" etc., but one has to be more specifik.

My husbands titles has as a matter of fact been "Project manager"/"product manager" and finally "Technical Manager", it also states so in his contract.

How can one go about this without sounding as if one tries to deny what the job contract says?

He is a Mechanical Engineer, and he worked as such but in different fields of mechanical engineering, so can one just for example write that he was "A Technical manager in regards to mechanical engineering" or a "product manager of mechanical engineering equipment" etc.?

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Note: Positions should not be described by generic titles (for example, research officer) but according to the nature of the duties undertaken (for example, research chemist)
research and officer are both very generic as is manager to some extent.

In the case of project or product managers, if there has been a particular type/industry of products or projects, you could add them to the title but if his work references have greater detail and they refer to his title as just either Manager, it'll likely be OK to stick with those.

The descriptions given in the experience areas and asking for less than generic titles is to cover all bases, ie. there could be applicants with scant experience who may use generic titles.





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research and officer are both very generic as is manager to some extent.

In the case of project or product managers, if there has been a particular type/industry of products or projects, you could add them to the title but if his work references have greater detail and they refer to his title as just either Manager, it'll likely be OK to stick with those.

The descriptions given in the experience areas and asking for less than generic titles is to cover all bases, ie. there could be applicants with scant experience who may use generic titles.
Hmm, yeah, I see what you mean. However, hub and I did a "practise-try-out" on the 175 visa online appl yesterday, and when we came to the section
where we had to fill in his jobtitle, his jobtitle wasn't there. You could pick a varieties of jobtitles, but none like Project manager or Technical manager.

So we are not sure what to pick. I think that the most obvious title would be mechanical engineer, since this is the title he hopes to get confirmed by Engineers Australia, as that is our only chance of coming to Oz (only way we can get 120 points).

But if he chooses this title, it wont fit with the title in his appoinment letter, where he is titled a P.manager, og technical .manager, also in his reference letters it will say technical Manager.

In other words this could perhaps get DIAC to suspect that he is not in fact the nominated occupation, we assigned him to be, even though he does work with mechanical engineering "stuff".

So now we have to think! I will write a pre-lodgement enqury for the DIAC, but if anyone in here knows how to go about this rule, let me know


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Probably putting Engineering Manager down would be OK in that case as to be honest I hadn't checked the SOL listings.
Seeing as he is either doing product or project management with an engineering bias, it's about right with engineering qualifications.





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Probably putting Engineering Manager down would be OK in that case as to be honest I hadn't checked the SOL listings.
Seeing as he is either doing product or project management with an engineering bias, it's about right with engineering qualifications.
Yeah, perhaps he could use the "Engineering Manager" title, but it is NOT on the CSL list, and would that not affect the points he would be making, us needing to have 120?

Very confusing, if any engineers in have had a similar situation , please let us know, what you did. His title is basically not a reflection of his job.


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As posted elsewhere Marianne,
Mechanical Engineer should be his nominated occupation, the one he'll be assessed by IEA as.
When it comes to recent experience and points for specific experience and MODL, yep he needs to be in a position on SOL/MODL and so it'll need to be the same - mechanical engineer or go with engineering manager and with latter at least manager is in the references title.





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