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decision is made...whats the next step for us and when do we start?!


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decision is made...whats the next step for us and when do we start?!

Hi all
im a newbie here and would appreciate any advice available based on the following...

My partner and I have been considering emigrating for a few years and have finally decided its definately what we want to do, so where do we start and when do we start the application process?

My partner is training as a chef, still in his 1st year and I imagine the application would be as a cook.
Im self employed as a photographer, have decided to quit and re train as an Occupational therapist, hoping that I can train on the job here for a couple of years which will give me some experience and basic qualifications to work in Aus. We have an 18 month old son.

I believe that my partner needs 4 years training and experiece as a cook but does this mean we can only apply once the 4 years are done or can we apply in say 18 months when he has 2 years experience, knowing it will take a while to be accepted anyway?

We are not married, can I get in on his visa and if so can I apply for any work I want to once we get there?

Are we better to apply for permanent residency under the circumstances?

We know we are probably looking at 5 years before its a reality but we want to start putting things in place, saving and making sure we are on the right path.

thanks to anyone that has the time or advice that can help!

Ali


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Hi all
im a newbie here and would appreciate any advice available based on the following...

My partner and I have been considering emigrating for a few years and have finally decided its definately what we want to do, so where do we start and when do we start the application process?

My partner is training as a chef, still in his 1st year and I imagine the application would be as a cook.
Im self employed as a photographer, have decided to quit and re train as an Occupational therapist, hoping that I can train on the job here for a couple of years which will give me some experience and basic qualifications to work in Aus. We have an 18 month old son.

I believe that my partner needs 4 years training and experiece as a cook but does this mean we can only apply once the 4 years are done or can we apply in say 18 months when he has 2 years experience, knowing it will take a while to be accepted anyway?

We are not married, can I get in on his visa and if so can I apply for any work I want to once we get there?

Are we better to apply for permanent residency under the circumstances?

We know we are probably looking at 5 years before its a reality but we want to start putting things in place, saving and making sure we are on the right path.

thanks to anyone that has the time or advice that can help!

Ali
Hi Ali and welcome to the forum.
It's certainly something of a Pandora's box thinking 5 years ahead Ali but good in a way that you do get some idea of what the process may be and yes saving as there are considerable costs involved when you think airfares and starting out money on top of what the visa fees and associated costs are.
And of course, it'd be great to do something before your son gets settled into schooling and then that is disrupted.

I'll try and paint something of a picture for you and right now there is a priority process and capping of numbers re immigration and what with global economic uncertainty for now, the system is likely to continue as it is for a while with adjustments - ammendments from a review last year still unannounced, but for now have a read of
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...processing.pdf
You'll see from that, priority is for Employer Sponsorship which is not such a bad thing for many occupations.

Employer Sponsorship along with the independent path are the two skilled immigration processes, the top two on Workers - Visas & Immigration ,
there being a few different visas in each category.

As to occupations, A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information is the relevant list for Australia and you'll see there is Cook and Chef, Chefs as far as I know always being considered a more skilled cook.
I'm not sure how many yaers training is required in the UK but I know there have been two year cookery courses running in Australia for international students and that basically has them qualifying as a cook but then they have to do a Job ready testing process if they want to use that study here to apply for permanent residency.
But click on cook and chef in that linked list and it'll have some detail re comparing the two.

An overseas trained person also needs qualifications/skills assessed and some experience after qualifying is likely - have a look for info on that via Trades Recognition Australia - Home
So it is not a good idea to contemplate immigration based on your partners qualifications until he is finished training, has some experience and has an assessment.
Meanwhile if your Occupational Therapy training has progressed, you may be getting close to qualifying too and that could be another option for you.

So as I said, we've got a sytem now that could be adjusted but anybody's guess just what is happening on the planet and here re immigration in three-four years from now though being skilled is going to do nobody any harm.

If we still have a priority system and say three years is as early as either of you could apply for the independent approach, it could easily be another three years plus some as it is now for people without what are considered critical skills, though one bright light is that Occupational Therapy is on the CSL now and most medical professions are usually in high demand.

The independent approach is a points assessment one and so have a look from Professionals and other Skilled Migrants - Workers - Visas & Immigration and the second link to SOL will show you the points available for OT or Cook or Chef [though they could change over next few years, so pay to check back regularly and se what's happening, the first link of What's New being handy - a lot of info on the DIAC web site but become familiar with it and you'll find it's an easy enough menu driven approach] and details re the Assessing Organisations at end of listings.

Go to the Visa Options Heading Link on above page will take you via selecting "Outside of Australia" to the 175/176 visa options and have a read of them re the state sponsorship approach which means less overall points are required and under eligibility for either you'll find a self assessment table and using that will tell you whether you can get enough points, each heading for points that are applicable to you will take you to explanatory information to help you decide and even the no points headings have information too - recent experience for instance of 12 months within last 24 and then there are the Health and Character requirements too.

So projecting your situation out a bit, either as the OT or the Chef you'll be able to get an idea of how you would be placed.

The other alternative could be the Employer Sponsorship and as I said earlier, it currently has priority.
Have a look from Visa Options - Employer Sponsored Workers - Workers - Visas & Immigration , the 457 temporary visa being widely used as a preliminary visa by many industries including medical and the advantages are it is quick, cheap, not points tested and yet is a possible stepping stone on to a permanent residency visa.
The one disadvantage to watch out for is that in NSW only it may be, there are international schooling fees that a temporary resident would be liable for, and then getting a housing loan may not be the easiest.
The temporary 457 also has you reliant on the employer, though you can get a new employer sponsor, but if things went bad you could end up without a visa and have to leave - so best to move to PR asap.

Chef's/cooks always seem to be in reasonably high demand and it is probably possible to arrange employer sponsorship, Voyages Hotels and Resorts - Australia for instance having a number of resorts and they might be interested in sponsoring as would larger hotel chains and the latter are likely to be located more in keeping with where OT work would be.

Whomever applies for a visa with a couple, the one applying is termed the primary applicant and partner and children are secondary applicants, getting the same visa and having all residency and work rights as well.

That's probably sufficient to get you started and good luck with the planning.





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Thank you for all the info, thats plenty for us to research into for now and im sure time will fly by and before we know it we will be settled in Aus!! cheers
ali


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