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Old 10-23-2013, 10:35 AM
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Look at DIAC Fact Sheet 35 - De facto. That mentions some examples of relationships. It is recognised that there are legitimate reasons why people can't live together continuously. However, on the face of it, I'd say your case seems a bit of a stretch. You may want to consider getting a prospective marriage visa, get married in Aus. and then apply for a partner visa. Or, given your age, how about you move to Indonesia to stay with your boyfriend for some time to work up some cohabitation? 18 is a bit young to get married and sponsor someone, life often takes unexpected turns at later stages. I agree with maggie-may24 that it is probably the best idea to aim at a Working Holiday Visa and cohabitate on that one in Aus. if possible.
(and regarding meesha121's post: You have to realise that most of us have gone through the same sort of thing, so we are talking out of experience at dealing with DIBP rules). If you want more authoritative advice, I can always recommend Grant Williams's blog.


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I cant get a work and holiday because my partner doesn't meet the education requirements. I applied for a one year tourist visa and was only given 3 months. How am I meant to spend the rest of my life losing and gain the man I love?

He spent december to march here and went back, I went in may for 5 days, then he came back in july until last month and we have just come back from 1 month together in thailand and malaysia. Is this not enough? The seperation is because I ouldnt travel because I started a new job


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Hi Meaghan,

sorry to be the bearer of bad news but your time spent together is not sufficient for a de-facto visa.

As meesha suggested you should look into prospective marriage visa or other long term visa options for your partner. The PMV requires a lot less evidence compared to the de-facto visa, so this might be easier for you to achieve.

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If you live in NSW you could consider registering your relationship with Births Deaths and Marriages...you can do this in other states but NSW has the most lenient eligibility requirements. If you could do this you would still need to work out a way to live together for a period of time before being eligible to apply for 309. Have you considered residing in Bali with your partner? I am doing that now and you can live fairly cheaply on savings for 6mths or more. Perhaps he could then get another 3mth visa to continue living together in Aus before you apply..

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Im in WA. I would live in bali but I have car payments to do and studying and his income there isnt enough for support him and I


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I guess these are the sacrifices we have to make if we really want to be together and they are small ones when you think about what you get in the end..I also left a high paying job and other commitments in Aus to move here and live off my savings. However unless you can think of a way to live together it is unlikely you will be eligible for the 309..you could always consult a migration agent to get a professional opinion based on all the evidence you are planning to submit with your application..in Aus you can do this for about $150 and in Bali about $25..good luck

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As others have said it doesnt seem as though you are 'defacto'. From what i see it looks as though you are dating and visiting each other. Temporary separations would be people who have FIFO jobs for example, or partners in the army, where they both have the same address but just stay temporarily somewhere else but its not actually their home.
And as u said u have only turned 18. Thats very young considering u were under 18 the majority of your relationship


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How can we live together when the government wont let him in australia more than 3 months? Its fucked. Dont judge me on my age either mate


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De facto visas are not just for people who are dating. They are for people who are living together, combining their households, sharing finances, etc. like spouses, just without the piece of paper. That's how DIAC defines a "de facto" relationship. The only way around this is to register your relationship, and you have the supreme bad luck of living in a state that does not allow that.

Spouses will do whatever it takes to be with each other. If one can't live in Australia, they would live together outside Australia wherever they could until they could qualify for a visa to get them both into Australia.

That is the level of commitment necessary for the de facto visa. The other two options, as stated before are a spouse visa or prospective marriage visa, both of which require getting married. I'm afraid there's no other way around it.

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I just went and looked through your other posts - I see you've been trying for two years to find a way to get Gede back to Australia with you permanently. I really wish we had better news, but what registered migration agent Mark Northam told you last December is still true --

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The defacto partner visa application has a one-year living together requirement unless you register the relationship in the Australian state you live in.
If it seems we're being harsh on you, we're really not trying to be. We've just seen people waste months of their lives and thousands of dollars on visas they don't qualify for and do NOT want to see that happen to someone who so obviously cares deeply for her partner like you do.

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