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Old 10-28-2013, 10:25 PM
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Hi everyone, Im new to the forumn and hoping that someone will be able to share their knowledge and experience with me. Im an Australian resident (acquired through employer sponsorship) and have been living in Australia for about 5 years now. I met and married my husband who is a citizen and this year had a little boy.
Meanwhile my mum who was back in the UK partner died and with just having her grandson it seemed to make sense for her to join us here.
She is 64 on Nov 8, so just missed out this year for the onshore aged parent. She went ahead and applied for the 173 temporary contributory parent so she can come here for two years and then apply for permancy once here. The main idea is to get her here as soon as possible as she is a it lost back in the UK.
Anyway when she first looked at the 173 the processing time was shorter. She has sold her house and just submitted the 173 only to find out the processing time is now at least 18 months. If she comes out for a year she will have to leave for 6 months or more and basically will have nowhere to go. With hindsight selling her house probably wasn't the best option but I think she is a bit depressed and just wanted to get here, plus her sister said that if she had to return for any length of time she could stay there; however she herself has decided to move away now.
Im looking for best options for her. If I could get her here on a visa that doesn't have a no further stay clause on it she could apply for the aged parent on shore next nov and get a bridging visa., but Im pretty sure that a 12 months tourist visa would have a no further stay attached. We are in a bit of a mess!

Thanks so much and apologies if ive not made much sense!


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You're aware of the cost for the contributory parent visa, correct? Just making sure. Essentially there's the contributory route and the non-contributory route. With the contributory visa, the cost is $40,000+. Not an inexpensive visa. With the Non-contributory visa, it's much less expensive, but the wait for the visa is currently around 13 YEARS. Just wanted to get that ironed out first in case you weren't aware.

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Also, I'm assuming she passes the Balance of Family test (i.e., not more than one other child living outside of Australia) since she already applied for the 173?

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Also, I'm assuming she passes the Balance of Family test (i.e., not more than one other child living outside of Australia) since she already applied for the 173?
Hi CollegeGirl, thanks for your reply. Yes she does pass the balance of family test and yes its an expensive process to say the least, but she is prepared to pay it with the sale of house proceeds.
The issue is what visa to get her here on that ensures her the best amount of time but preferably doesn't have a no further stay clause attached as we haven't ruled out applying for the onshore parent visa next November. If she has to leave after a year Im worried for her. I don't know where she will go. Also if she comes out on a years tourist visa and leaves for a few weeks Im not sure how likely it is she would be granted another tourist visa that soon to come back again whilst waiting for the 173 to be processed.


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Hi Guisey,
Sorry to hear about your mom's circumstances. In my experience, the Contributory Parent visa (143) is the quickest PR route and takes well under 2 years given the costs and allocated quota. These visas are quota driven and the time taken varies according to the quota. There are a range of temporary visa you can use to get here in the meantime, including tourist visa, and the 173.

FYI from DIBP website:
In the 2013–14 Migration Program year:

2250 places have been allocated to Parent (non-contributory) visas, including approximately 1700 places for Parent (subclass 103) visas and approximately 550 places for Aged Parent (subclass 804) visas.
6675 places have been allocated to Contributory Parent visas (subclasses 173/143 and subclasses 884/864).
The final proportion of places allocated between applicants applying in and outside Australia in both Parent visas types (contributory and non-contributory) is dependent on a number of factors, including client response times.

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Hi Guisey,
Sorry to hear about your mom's circumstances. In my experience, the Contributory Parent visa (143) is the quickest PR route and takes well under 2 years given the costs and allocated quota. These visas are quota driven and the time taken varies according to the quota. There are a range of temporary visa you can use to get here in the meantime, including tourist visa, and the 173.

FYI from DIBP website:
In the 201314 Migration Program year:

2250 places have been allocated to Parent (non-contributory) visas, including approximately 1700 places for Parent (subclass 103) visas and approximately 550 places for Aged Parent (subclass 804) visas.
6675 places have been allocated to Contributory Parent visas (subclasses 173/143 and subclasses 884/864).
The final proportion of places allocated between applicants applying in and outside Australia in both Parent visas types (contributory and non-contributory) is dependent on a number of factors, including client response times.

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Thanks so much for all the info Jerry Gomez!

I guess my question is about what to do in the interim and tourist visas. Is she likely to get a no further stay clause on a 12 month tourist visa? If so would it be better to apply for 6 months and go back to the Uk for a few weeks and then apply for another 6 months with the hope that wont get a no further stay attached or do we even consider an eta? You see if she can come for a year that's great but its what happens after that (between the end of a tourist visa and the processing of the 173).
If she could get here and not have a no further stay attached it means applying for the onshore aged parent next year is still an option for us and that way she doesn't have to go anywhere.
I do hope Im making sense! Its clear what Im asking in my head but not so easy to explain it!


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I am suggesting that the 143 is applied for prior to her visit. At least its in the works. DIBP tends to impose 8503 on tourist visas. But it is discretionary. Has condition been imposed on previous visits?

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I am suggesting that the 143 is applied for prior to her visit. At least its in the works. DIBP tends to impose 8503 on tourist visas. But it is discretionary. Has condition been imposed on previous visits?
thanks! she has previously come on a eta so I don't think so. Is there any benefit in applying for the 143 now? is it just faster processing?


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No worries. That's the main thing.

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Jerry- do you have any up-to-date waiting times for the various Parent Visas?
I would love to know how many are in the queue for each one too?


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