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Partner visa - met on internet (not going to go well, is it?)


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Old 02-19-2010, 09:59 AM
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Partner visa - met on internet (not going to go well, is it?)

So yeah, my partner and I met on the internet in 2004, chatted daily for years, I visited Australia and met him in real life in August 2008, only stayed for a few days due to work commitments.
We were sure we wanted to be together and so in April 2009 I moved here to live, we have been living together since the day I arrived.

I am a NZ citizen so I am allowed to live here indefinitely, but I want to gain Permanent Residence (no I don't intend to dole-bludge, but I do want to be eligible for jobs that require permanent residency i.e public service work, also I am likely to be studying for the next few years (beginning my degree here this year) so it would be nice if I were eligible for assistance with that a couple years down the track. Also, if I never get PR then I can never apply for citizenship, and since I intend to live here permanently that would kind of suck.

My father is an Australian citizen but didn't become one until a couple of years after I was born. I could apply for a child visa, but it would require lying about my de facto relationship, which I don't want to do.

So I figure I should apply for a Partner visa, but I forsee some problems:

- I suspect Immigration isn't going to be impressed by the fact that we met on the internet.
- We're 21. We've been best friends for six years and have known we wanted to be in a long-term relationship for three, but the facts as they stand are that we're 21 year olds who have only been living in the same country for nine months. (I realise we'll have to wait until April to even apply due to the 1 year requirement, but my point is I don't think it's going to look like a long-term relationship)
- I think they are going to wonder why I'm applying since as an NZ citizen I can already live here with my partner.
- Due to finances (we're both students, we both work part-time) we've only been able to live in share accommodation. We don't have shared bills or a shared lease and we haven't "established a household seperately from others". We've been saving and we're finally looking at getting our own place, but is Immigration going to want to count the one year from that date?
- We have a shared bank account into which we each put money every week, and we pay rent and groceries out of that, but we otherwise maintain seperate finances. We wanted to manage our money that way until we graduated and got "real jobs" (heh) but is Immigration going to think that means we aren't really a couple, if all our money isn't pooled?

Sheesh I'm so sorry this is so long


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Hi becca and welcome to the forum,

Meeting via the internet is not going to be held against you and in fact if you have records of contact for several years, that'll only help to show the length of your relationship prior to living together.

What you ought to do re the share house arrangements is to at least have a statement drawn up to indicate the arrangements, a defacto sublease if you like and if that can be done by a person holding the lease all the better, putting it on to a statutory declaration being all the better.
Support that with your joint bank payments and you're on the way.

Being a NZ citizen should not be held against you either as Immi will understand that you'll have restrictions without PR and your ages are also not a factor.

Have a read of a few of the partner visa threads; elkitten has a sticky up about all what she did to get a partner visa and that along with the Immi web site references will give you a guide to what you should record and how you can use existing bank accounts re past records too.

If by chance you're living in the ACT, Victoria or Tasmania, there is also the possibility of registering a relationship under state/territory legislation and that then gives a waiver to the 12 months relationship though you'll still need some records





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Hi, and thank you. Sorry I know I don't know very much about this process, I have read the Partner visa pdf on the immigration website but the evidence list was very daunting and I have never had to navigate quite this level of beauracracy before!

We live in Victoria.

We're going to try to get the leaseholder of the place where we're living to write a document to the effect that we live here together, but I'm not sure how possible it's going to be (he kind of doesn't really speak that much English, though I'm sure he'd be willing to try.)

I can get some of my old phone bills from NZ if that might help at all - they're itemised and show about ninety million texts and calls to his number, lol.

I do appreciate the reply. I feel very overwhelmed.


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Old 02-20-2010, 12:14 AM
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Hi, and thank you. Sorry I know I don't know very much about this process, I have read the Partner visa pdf on the immigration website but the evidence list was very daunting and I have never had to navigate quite this level of beauracracy before!

We live in Victoria.

We're going to try to get the leaseholder of the place where we're living to write a document to the effect that we live here together, but I'm not sure how possible it's going to be (he kind of doesn't really speak that much English, though I'm sure he'd be willing to try.)

I can get some of my old phone bills from NZ if that might help at all - they're itemised and show about ninety million texts and calls to his number, lol.

I do appreciate the reply. I feel very overwhelmed.
There is a lot of information on the web site and that list is indeed very daunting, especially if you read Booklet #1 starting about page 35 from memory - a link to booklets in sticky thread info if you haven't found it on the actual web site visa info.

There is however a phrase there re all what they list being an indication of the type of information to be provided and it does not mean you need every last little bit.

But any visa application to be successful needs to be approached in a diligent way and if you treat it like wanting to get an A+ on any study assignment, you'll be OK.
Just do not rush it, for that's a good way to come unstuck.

If the guy who is leaseholder does not have the best english [ makes you wonder sometimes how they get visas!] maybe if you explain what you're going to be doing and suggest you will have something typed up that he can agree to and sign and then at least it's clarity should be better, a copy of the lease being included to show he is the lease holder.

If your parents are aware of where you are living, you could even have a separate statement from them in relation to just that, their general support statutory declarations being separate.

With living in Victoria, that's great if you want to use the registration relationship - kind of hidden away by Immi a bit but on Partner Visa: Onshore Temporary and Permanent (Subclasses 820 and 801) go to the 12 months relationship link and under Waivers you have
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at the time of application of the partner visa, the de facto relationship was registered as a prescribed relationship in the relevant Australian state or territory legislation,
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA256902000FE154/Lookup/BDMApplication_Forms/$file/DomesticRelationship_ApplyToRegister.pdf is the form used in Victoria to register a relationship, it essentially doing for defacto couples what a marriage certificate does.
On P3. you'll note that the ID section part1 calls for Australian ID without mentioning NZ/Oz reciprocal agreement [something of an oversight, not unusual in that State governement do often mess up on international aspects] and I think if you just remind them of the NZ/Oz agreement it should be OK or if you have a Vic. Drivers Licence, no problems that way.

As said earlier, the waiver does not remove the entire need for providing evidence but you could say it'll be lessened a bit.

The NZ phone bills will be good historical records of your relationship longevity too.

Make sure you use the applying for this visa section Checklist in addition to the Booklet detailed requirements info and making up your own sub Checklist will not hurt and with your project folder, you just tick off each step as you get everything together.





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