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Old 01-09-2011, 12:07 AM
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bridging visa 1005

Has anyone who applied for bridging visa 1005 under financial hardship know how long it takes to be approved?

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This is nothing to do with a spousal visa so please start your own thread.


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Salam

Thank you brother for the infos you provided, it was really so good
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9+ months and still waiting.

My wife applied for a 309 partner visa on the 6th of June 2011 at the Egyptian Australian Embassy in Cairo and supplied everything that was required which included the police check, medical check, forms 40SP, 47SP, 80, marriage certificate, all types of relationship evidence, English translations, statutory declarations, relationship statements, Assurance of Support and absolutely everything that was required by the 21st of June 2011.

My wife didn't have her interview until the 15th of August 2011 with a woman called Mary.

My wife was born in Sudan and moved to Libya when she was 4 years old and lived their ever since apart from studying in Egypt, Cairo for a few years before we met and got married in Cairo, Egypt January 2011.

My wife has remained in Egypt, Cairo since 2011 till current awaiting grant of visa 309.

We both have been told that we have established a genuine relationship and that everything has been accepted and cleared on our application except FORM 80 which is still pending clearance.

My question is why does FORM 80 take 9 months or more to get clearance from Australia?

They were given form 80 on the 6th of June 2011 and until current they keep saying we are sorry but we are still waiting clearance on form 80 from Australia.

I can understand this taking 2 - 3 months or 4 months max but 9+ months is very slack.

Is there any reason why form 80 in my wife's 309 partner visa application is taking so long for clearance in which I'm not aware?

I have spoken with the Australian Embassy in Egypt, Cairo numerous times and they have said we don't know the reason and all we can say is, we are still waiting on your wife's form 80 clearance.

I sent an e-mail to my wife's case officer, the principal migration officer and lastly the regional director because I had no response.

I finally get a reply from the principal migration officer BUT only after I had sent an e-mail to the regional director.

I personally got the feeling and understanding that the principal migration officer never read my e-mail properly regarding my concern at the length of time of 9+ months taken to give clearance on form 80.

Because in his reply he stated "You have to understand that it can take a few months to receive clearance on these form 80's" after I had clearly mentioned in my original e-mail that it had now been 9+ months, did he read my e-mail or not?

E-mail response from principal migration officer:

"Dear Mr Xxxxxxxxx, I appreciate you are concerned at the time taken to process the application. Unfortunately, ensuring all the legal requirements are met in relation to an application can take some time. In particular, it can take several months to gain any necessary national security clearances from other agencies. I am following up on the status of your case to ensure it is being processed as soon as practicable.

I regret I do not have better news for you at this time".

I will be sending an e-mail reminder this weekend to the principal migration officer to see if he managed to find out the exact reason for the extra long delay in regards to the clearance of form 80.

My wife has a common first name but her last name is unique to her family.

Because of the fact that the Australian Embassy in Cairo, Egypt has a bad reputation as can be seen over the internet, I sent a letter to the minister of immigration stating my concern as to how some Australian migration officers were making biased decisions and not following the rules and regulations properly which they are use when determining whether a relationship is genuine or not.

A week later I received a phone call from Dubai who is the regional director giving me assurance that they were overseeing my wife's application making sure that the Australian Embassy and other involved were handling our application in accordance with the rules and regulations and proper procedures.

This happened back towards the end of July 2011.

It maybe has to do with all the unrest in these countries as I was there right in the middle when it all happened and that was quite an experience for me and was quite scary but not enough to make me run back to Australia, as I could not just leave my wife alone in a situation like that so I stayed there until all the violence ended.

I have not had the financial ability to travel back to be with my wife since April 2011 and sadly had to spend our first wedding anniversary alone and away from each other which was last month and it is my wife's birthday next week as well which is even more disappointing that I can't be with her to celebrate it.

I'm having to technically support two households on a single full-time income which gives me absolutely no savings at the end of each month since my wife currently lives alone and doesn't work and part of her family living in Libya and now Sudan after the terrible unrest in Libya recently.

So after 9+ months of me missing and not been able to with my wife, this delay is starting to make me tired and exhausted and starting to feel the financial burden as I send $1000 to my wife every month to support her.

I have definitely been told and have confirmed countless times that the delay is in fact form 80 and nothing else.

I would be very surprised if ASIO could confirm anything with the government and legal authorities over in those countries as I have been inside and dealt with many different government departments over in Egypt and to be honest with you everything is a total mess with no organization and often no computer system as they mainly deal in physical paper work and stick it away in a corner somewhere and it's basically like living 50 years ago over there.


Thanks guys......looking forward to your comments.


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My wife applied for a 309 partner visa on the 6th of June 2011 at the Egyptian Australian Embassy in Cairo and supplied everything that was required which included the police check, medical check, forms 40SP, 47SP, 80, marriage certificate, all types of relationship evidence, English translations, statutory declarations, relationship statements, Assurance of Support and absolutely everything that was required by the 21st of June 2011.

My wife didn't have her interview until the 15th of August 2011 with a woman called Mary.

My wife was born in Sudan and moved to Libya when she was 4 years old and lived their ever since apart from studying in Egypt, Cairo for a few years before we met and got married in Cairo, Egypt January 2011.

My wife has remained in Egypt, Cairo since 2011 till current awaiting grant of visa 309.

We both have been told that we have established a genuine relationship and that everything has been accepted and cleared on our application except FORM 80 which is still pending clearance.

My question is why does FORM 80 take 9 months or more to get clearance from Australia?

They were given form 80 on the 6th of June 2011 and until current they keep saying we are sorry but we are still waiting clearance on form 80 from Australia.

I can understand this taking 2 - 3 months or 4 months max but 9+ months is very slack.

Is there any reason why form 80 in my wife's 309 partner visa application is taking so long for clearance in which I'm not aware?

I have spoken with the Australian Embassy in Egypt, Cairo numerous times and they have said we don't know the reason and all we can say is, we are still waiting on your wife's form 80 clearance.

I sent an e-mail to my wife's case officer, the principal migration officer and lastly the regional director because I had no response.

I finally get a reply from the principal migration officer BUT only after I had sent an e-mail to the regional director.

I personally got the feeling and understanding that the principal migration officer never read my e-mail properly regarding my concern at the length of time of 9+ months taken to give clearance on form 80.

Because in his reply he stated "You have to understand that it can take a few months to receive clearance on these form 80's" after I had clearly mentioned in my original e-mail that it had now been 9+ months, did he read my e-mail or not?

E-mail response from principal migration officer:

"Dear Mr Xxxxxxxxx, I appreciate you are concerned at the time taken to process the application. Unfortunately, ensuring all the legal requirements are met in relation to an application can take some time. In particular, it can take several months to gain any necessary national security clearances from other agencies. I am following up on the status of your case to ensure it is being processed as soon as practicable.

I regret I do not have better news for you at this time".

I will be sending an e-mail reminder this weekend to the principal migration officer to see if he managed to find out the exact reason for the extra long delay in regards to the clearance of form 80.

My wife has a common first name but her last name is unique to her family.

Because of the fact that the Australian Embassy in Cairo, Egypt has a bad reputation as can be seen over the internet, I sent a letter to the minister of immigration stating my concern as to how some Australian migration officers were making biased decisions and not following the rules and regulations properly which they are use when determining whether a relationship is genuine or not.

A week later I received a phone call from Dubai who is the regional director giving me assurance that they were overseeing my wife's application making sure that the Australian Embassy and other involved were handling our application in accordance with the rules and regulations and proper procedures.

This happened back towards the end of July 2011.

It maybe has to do with all the unrest in these countries as I was there right in the middle when it all happened and that was quite an experience for me and was quite scary but not enough to make me run back to Australia, as I could not just leave my wife alone in a situation like that so I stayed there until all the violence ended.

I have not had the financial ability to travel back to be with my wife since April 2011 and sadly had to spend our first wedding anniversary alone and away from each other which was last month and it is my wife's birthday next week as well which is even more disappointing that I can't be with her to celebrate it.

I'm having to technically support two households on a single full-time income which gives me absolutely no savings at the end of each month since my wife currently lives alone and doesn't work and part of her family living in Libya and now Sudan after the terrible unrest in Libya recently.

So after 9+ months of me missing and not been able to with my wife, this delay is starting to make me tired and exhausted and starting to feel the financial burden as I send $1000 to my wife every month to support her.

I have definitely been told and have confirmed countless times that the delay is in fact form 80 and nothing else.

I would be very surprised if ASIO could confirm anything with the government and legal authorities over in those countries as I have been inside and dealt with many different government departments over in Egypt and to be honest with you everything is a total mess with no organization and often no computer system as they mainly deal in physical paper work and stick it away in a corner somewhere and it's basically like living 50 years ago over there.


Thanks guys......looking forward to your comments.
Hi Mr Australia - I hear you loud and clear. - Cairo is a huge problem - we were refused visa stating not genuine - I spent 18 months with my partner in Morocco - we have been in a relationship since 2001 - till current 2012. Cairo took 10-1/2 months to refuse the visa. Waiting 2 years to this point in time for a hearing at MRT - I have written to Prime Minister - no reply, Minister of Immigration twice - received a reply on the 2nd try. Received a letter from the Director in Dubai - basically saying I hope this matter is dealt with as soon as possible. All I can say is hang in there and hope you get a favourable outcome. As you can see I am still waiting to be able to plan my future with my partner, Im fed up living in this limbo state in an enclosed bubble brought about by our Immigration. Last month I flew to Morocco and spent another 4 wonderful weeks with him but it is so painful to once again have to say bye at the airport. So I do understand your plight. Annie123


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Hi Mr Australia - I hear you loud and clear. - Cairo is a huge problem - we were refused visa stating not genuine - I spent 18 months with my partner in Morocco - we have been in a relationship since 2001 - till current 2012. Cairo took 10-1/2 months to refuse the visa. Waiting 2 years to this point in time for a hearing at MRT - I have written to Prime Minister - no reply, Minister of Immigration twice - received a reply on the 2nd try. Received a letter from the Director in Dubai - basically saying I hope this matter is dealt with as soon as possible. All I can say is hang in there and hope you get a favourable outcome. As you can see I am still waiting to be able to plan my future with my partner, Im fed up living in this limbo state in an enclosed bubble brought about by our Immigration. Last month I flew to Morocco and spent another 4 wonderful weeks with him but it is so painful to once again have to say bye at the airport. So I do understand your plight. Annie123
Thanks for your comments Annie, I appreciate you taking the time to post.

I can understand how you feel as well since I'm in the same boat and have read all your posts and all I can say is I hope you and your partner finally get granted your visa so you and partner can start living life together in Australia and start a fresh and successful future and achieve your goals in life.

You are the same as me, all me and my wife want is to have our visa granted and start living life together once again as husband and wife here is Australia and hope to start a fresh future for the year 2013 and hopefully start a family and having a nice, happy and successful future.

The worst part in all this was when my wife had her interview.

My wife was waiting in the room to be called and a woman called Mary came out and called my wife's name and asked where her translator was and my wife said that there is no translator as my wife speaks fluent English, Mary then said "I don't think so, you don't look like you can speak good English". My wife then said try me and Mary said okay we will see and turns out she was very surprised at my wife's capability in speaking fluent English.

This response and comments from Mary regarding my wife thinking that she didn't look like a person capable of speaking good English is absolutely shocking and offensive and this is how she treats the wife of an Australian born citizen.

This kind of treatment and delay is well and truly more than just slack and shocking but certain people need to be given a warning and follow the rules and regulations according to the immigration act when determining whether a relationship is genuine and not make personal biased decisions and judgements of the applicants otherwise they face serious consequences in losing their job as a migration officer.

This kind of conduct has real potential to damage and totally ruin a genuine relationship and if that ever happened with me, all hell will break loose.


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Thanks for your comments Annie, I appreciate you taking the time to post.

I can understand how you feel as well since I'm in the same boat and have read all your posts and all I can say is I hope you and your partner finally get granted your visa so you and partner can start living life together in Australia and start a fresh and successful future and achieve your goals in life.

You are the same as me, all me and my wife want is to have our visa granted and start living life together once again as husband and wife here is Australia and hope to start a fresh future for the year 2013 and hopefully start a family and having a nice, happy and successful future.

The worst part in all this was when my wife had her interview.

My wife was waiting in the room to be called and a woman called Mary came out and called my wife's name and asked where her translator was and my wife said that there is no translator as my wife speaks fluent English, Mary then said "I don't think so, you don't look like you can speak good English". My wife then said try me and Mary said okay we will see and turns out she was very surprised at my wife's capability in speaking fluent English.

This response and comments from Mary regarding my wife thinking that she didn't look like a person capable of speaking good English is absolutely shocking and offensive and this is how she treats the wife of an Australian born citizen.

This kind of treatment and delay is well and truly more than just slack and shocking but certain people need to be given a warning and follow the rules and regulations according to the immigration act when determining whether a relationship is genuine and not make personal biased decisions and judgements of the applicants otherwise they face serious consequences in losing their job as a migration officer.

This kind of conduct has real potential to damage and totally ruin a genuine relationship and if that ever happened with me, all hell will break loose.
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It was Mary that interviewed me and Mark that interviewed my partner, and he was told he was a "very strange fellow" what ever that means. he was asked re the marriage ceremony here, my partner replied but seems it was not good enough and in the refusal mark stated he had no concept of marriage in any religion. Many of the questions asked and answers given were written down by mark and was not the answers given. Seems mark put his own spell on each and everything answered and continued to state HIS personal mindset on everything eg religion, culture, age etc. At the end of the interview my partner was given back all his Stat Dec's and the marriage papers paid for here in Australia plus some of my Stat Dec"s and in his submission re refusal stated my partner had no family support or acceptance of our relationship. Strange thing was the doc's were signed and given by HIS mother, sisters, and other family members. Besides for the 18 months I was in Morocco we lived together in his mothers home with her and family blessings in an apartment type room they organised for us. Just the time frame along 2001 - current - this relationship is totally and honestly genuine and on going and really it has lasted longer than some marriages here in Australia. all too crazy to understand their thinking, but the stress and emotional pain and upset they cause is beyond my comprehension. Oh another reason he stated " we didnt have an engagement party". what the hell - we had a family henna party and dinner etc but there are many couples in Australia who decide not to have an engagement party, that is a personal choice, besides I didnt have any member of my family there for this occasion. They will do and say anything to what appears to FOB us off. What anyone can do about it i really do not know. I put in a complaint to the ombudsman but I had no reply to that complaint. Guess that is filed at the bottom of their huge pile of papers in the dungeons of the Embassy in Cairo.
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Hi again Annie,

When you mentioned that you waited 10 and a half months to have your visa application refused.

Did they complete the police, medical and form 80 clearance?

It is my understanding that immigration won't even bother going through with the police check and form 80 clearance especially more so than a medical check unless they establish a genuine relationship.

I could be wrong on this Annie but it was just my understanding.

Looking forward to your comments.

Michael.


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Hi again Annie,

When you mentioned that you waited 10 and a half months to have your visa application refused.

Did they complete the police, medical and form 80 clearance?

It is my understanding that immigration won't even bother going through with the police check and form 80 clearance especially more so than a medical check unless they establish a genuine relationship.

I could be wrong on this Annie but it was just my understanding.

Looking forward to your comments.

Michael.
Hi Again

it was my understanding from emails sent to Cairo via my agent that was the case. DIAC takes a long time to process form 80 - particularly if the person has been in other countries, and yet I have read others from similar countries can be achieved in 1 day - 7 days. The whole process is a nightmare and the financial cost of everything is over the top and yet the refugees, costs them nothing, and it also takes away from people like myself because members in MRT are very short staffed (so they advised me). What else or how high i could jump falls on very deaf ears. If you have any advice i would love to hear it. Annie123


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Hi Again

it was my understanding from emails sent to Cairo via my agent that was the case. DIAC takes a long time to process form 80 - particularly if the person has been in other countries, and yet I have read others from similar countries can be achieved in 1 day - 7 days. The whole process is a nightmare and the financial cost of everything is over the top and yet the refugees, costs them nothing, and it also takes away from people like myself because members in MRT are very short staffed (so they advised me). What else or how high i could jump falls on very deaf ears. If you have any advice i would love to hear it. Annie123
In our case Medical and Police checks - there was no issues.


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hello , i want you help me : my wife having interview questions with review tribunal MRT Next week i just if can you give me the questions interview MRT will ask my wife?
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