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Old 11-07-2013, 09:48 AM
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Hi Georgie -

Wow, sounds like you were given bad advice and thensome. Sounds like you ran into a Schedule 3 problem with onshore partner visa application while holding a non-substantive (ie, bridging) visa. This works sometimes, but requires creating compelling circumstances that the Minister will accept - not a simple or easy thing to do in many cases. Great advice to the OP re: hardcopy documents, etc.

Please advise if I can assist or give you a second opinion about anything. I absolutely hate to see people get jerked around by incompetent advisors.

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If you think it's easy enough to add your gf to the lease, then do it. If not, it's not a big deal. Immigration just want you to prove that you have lived under the same roof, and by getting all her mail sent to you is a good start. Like GBP mentioned, find her another farm to work on with better conditions and when they ask for her mailing address, give your mums house. It doesn't matter that your mum or you are on the lease at this stage. It matters that you can prove you live together.

I would be more inclined to get one of the bills put into her name. Power? Gas? Does she have a mobile phone that is not prepaid, where they will send her a bill? Those kinds of things all help.
Yeah, she is thinking of switching from prepaid to a telstra plan while she is on the farm in bundy mainly because she has no reception to call... i looked into it but i couldn't see if it's possible to have a joint mobile bill?


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Yeah, she is thinking of switching from prepaid to a telstra plan while she is on the farm in bundy mainly because she has no reception to call... i looked into it but i couldn't see if it's possible to have a joint mobile bill?
I think it is good enough to put her name on phone bills and using your current address as her postal address.

You can consider changing the postal address of her bank statements, tax letters, insurance etc.


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Yeah, she is thinking of switching from prepaid to a telstra plan while she is on the farm in bundy mainly because she has no reception to call... i looked into it but i couldn't see if it's possible to have a joint mobile bill?
Pretty much what GBP said. There's no need to have joint bills, just split the bills up and make sure they both come to the same address (your home)

So if your partner has a Telstra bill and you have an Optus bill, get them sent to the same address but in your individual names. They just need proof that you live under the same roof.

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You cannot apply for a defactoship either if she ends up on a bridging visa, best advice to leave Aus and do it offshore or put her on a tourist visa and then do the defactoship. Do not put her on a bridging visa as this is not substantive. This happened to my partner and I and it has cost is a lot of unnecessary stress, financial pressure, and time! We have not been able to purchase a home or travel outside of Australia due to these restrictions and being stuffed around by an immigration agent based in Sydney!
Georgie, it sounds like you have really been through it! There's no way the de facto application process should take that long, even if you had to take a year to live together somewhere in order to make sure you qualify. That's insane.

Regarding what you posted above, though, I think what you've been through might have confused you on this point.

First of all, a de facto visa CAN be applied for onshore. If the applicant is on one valid visa (like Brick's partner is - she's on the WHV) and applies onshore for a de facto visa, she will be given a Bridging Visa A.

Bridging Visa A comes with full work rights, access to medicare, etc. And you CAN travel outside of the country with it, even if only for a few months at a time. You do have to apply for a temporary Bridging Visa B in order to do that, though. Time spent on a BVA also counts towards citizenship, PR, and everything else of importance.

I'm wondering if somehow in your situation you were given wrong information and ended up on another type of Bridging Visa (BVE maybe?) that does not allow you to travel outside of the country. The Bridging Visa that Brick's partner get will not be like that.

I'm really sorry you've had such a hard time of it.

[EDIT: Just saw Mark had already replied to you. I would definitely take him up on his offer! If anyone can help, it's Mark!]

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I got my first call from her last night after finally getting reception in bundaberg very upset. I don't think she is cut out for manual labor so we will see how today goes... I feel like if she can't make it on the farm we will have a really hard time getting this visa before march :/

I spoke with mum last night and agree'd to put her name on the lease, so it will be me, mum, and anna on the same lease, hopefully this will get things moving and I also asked to put her name on the electricity bill as well.

In regards to the phone bill, I called Telstra and asked if she was able to get a phone plan and they stated she needed an Australian drivers license or Australian passport to get a phone plan :/


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In regards to the phone bill, I called Telstra and asked if she was able to get a phone plan and they stated she needed an Australian drivers license or Australian passport to get a phone plan :/
That's strange, we walked into a Vodafone shop about 2 weeks after my partner arrived in the country and signed her up for a 24 month contract. They even did a credit check on her, but didn't ask what her income was.

All she had to show was her passport.

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Maybe it depends on what visa they are on or the phone company. Vodafone probably need all the customers they can get


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A couple of backpackers I know actually did their 88 days of farm work on a volunteering farm because they tend to treat you better (they have to.... they don't pay people) but have still been approved for this purpose. If you can afford it and want to spare her the current experience, it may be worth it. I'm sorry to hear about your circumstances. Read up and start collecting as much as you can.

This is kind of what angers me about the process... I understand why it is the way it is - but they're asking for a lot of things that no "normal" couple would be able to gather together either, because regular couples don't need to think about what's in who's name and whether they save receipts and mail or not. I understand there is no other way, but for some people these expectations are unnatural to a degree where they have to go out of their way to create evidence from early on - defeating the purpose because evidence of a real relationship should be organic and natural, not sought for, produced and focused on.

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Hello Brick,

I think there's a lot of unnecessary worry here. Sure getting a 2nd year WHV will give you the time to really build the documentation up but I don't think it's needed.

Going back to your original post, once a de facto relationship is fully registered by a recognised authority (there is a cooling off period after applying) there's no need to satisfy the '12 month relationship' requirement for the partner visa.

You'll still have to show that you're in a genuine and on-going de facto relationship but it sounds like you're on track with a lot of that documentation. Just set up as many joint responsibilites as you can and start gathering the evidence between now and the time of application. As well as the lease, your mum can write a statement explaining how long you've both lived there, how you contribute to the rent/bills/upkeep etc.....Everything helps.

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