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Old 03-10-2010, 01:29 PM
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Guys, please help, as a decision needs to made ASAP

My fiance' (Australian citizen, living in Melbourne) and I (UK citizen, living and studying Nursing in the UK) are making a decision whether to apply for the Prospective Marriage Visa.

The long distance relationship is proving too difficult. I decided to come back to the UK to study Nursing because of the costs involved. However, It is just too difficult to manage both so my fiance' and I have decided to get married and me return to Australia.

I must continue my training though as a nurse because it is my ambition and therefore looking into my options.

Tafe and some universities offer 'Certificate IV in Nursing'. This is the course I want to do. However I do not know whether I would fall under a local or International student on enrolment on to the course? Or whether after 2 years or so I would be eligible to apply as a local student?

There is a considerable difference in fees and so I am weighing up the options/ benefits.

Please help! My mind is going crazy as to what to do best and obviously we need to get cracking on the application!

Appreciate any assistance,

Lorraine


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Guys, please help, as a decision needs to made ASAP

My fiance' (Australian citizen, living in Melbourne) and I (UK citizen, living and studying Nursing in the UK) are making a decision whether to apply for the Prospective Marriage Visa.

The long distance relationship is proving too difficult. I decided to come back to the UK to study Nursing because of the costs involved. However, It is just too difficult to manage both so my fiance' and I have decided to get married and me return to Australia.

I must continue my training though as a nurse because it is my ambition and therefore looking into my options.

Tafe and some universities offer 'Certificate IV in Nursing'. This is the course I want to do. However I do not know whether I would fall under a local or International student on enrolment on to the course? Or whether after 2 years or so I would be eligible to apply as a local student?

There is a considerable difference in fees and so I am weighing up the options/ benefits.

Please help! My mind is going crazy as to what to do best and obviously we need to get cracking on the application!

Appreciate any assistance,

Lorraine
Hi Lorraine,
And you mention getting married and returning to Australia and if you're going to do it that way, you might as well apply for the offshore partner visa [ about $800 cheaper ]
The PMV does allow you to marry outside of Australia within the nine months from when it is granted, but you would need to have entered Australia first and then left for overseas, marry and then return before the visa expires to apply onshore for the partner visa or you would be up for applying offshore. - Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300) .

The marriage waives the 12 months relationship requirement but you still need to provide evidence of a relationship and a continuing commitment, a read of Booklet #1 being appropriate.

As for nursing, I'm not too sure what the Certificate IV would qualify you for, it possibly being for a Nurses Aide and sounds like TAFE.
Registered Nurses qualify through a full University Bachelors Degree, details @ Nurse - Registered Nurse 2323-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information

And unfortunately you would be on international student rates whilst on TR and if wanting the locals rates, that would mean putting your studies on hold until PR.

If you have already completed part of your studies, you may be able with minimum extra TAFE [ or perhaps none at all ] get work as an Aide or something associated in the medical area until ready to resume studies.





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Thank you!!

Need extra help..!

I have been reading in the 'Prospective Marriage Visa' booklet and it states

"evidence that you intend to marry your fiancÚ(e) within 9 months of being granted thevisa. Such evidence must be a signed and dated letter (on letterhead) from anauthorised marriage celebrant who will conduct your wedding ceremony. The letter must include the date and place of the planned marriage ceremony. If you plan tomarry in Australia, the celebrant must confirm that a Notice of Intended Marriage(NOIM) for you and your fiancÚ(e) has been lodged with them."

I have the form so do I fill it out and sign it infront of an australian agent say and then send the form to my fiance' and he does the same and then he can send it to the registrar for application? Does anyone know how I would ask the registry for a letter? Or is it as simple as just asking them?

My mind is going crazy!

Hope this is all worth it!

Lorraine


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Thank you!!

Need extra help..!

I have been reading in the 'Prospective Marriage Visa' booklet and it states

"evidence that you intend to marry your fiancÚ(e) within 9 months of being granted thevisa. Such evidence must be a signed and dated letter (on letterhead) from anauthorised marriage celebrant who will conduct your wedding ceremony. The letter must include the date and place of the planned marriage ceremony. If you plan tomarry in Australia, the celebrant must confirm that a Notice of Intended Marriage(NOIM) for you and your fiancÚ(e) has been lodged with them."

I have the form so do I fill it out and sign it infront of an australian agent say and then send the form to my fiance' and he does the same and then he can send it to the registrar for application? Does anyone know how I would ask the registry for a letter? Or is it as simple as just asking them?

My mind is going crazy!

Hope this is all worth it!

Lorraine
Well, there's a few things I'd take into account here Lorraine:
. Like having somewhere in mind at least to make an enjoyable memorable day of it, it being your wedding day afterall and I'm sure your fiance's family might have some ideas to help him out for somewhere in Oz if he is a typical male out of his depth a little on such matters.
A few suggestions:
. Floating Chapel on Gold Coast if it'll be bear Brisbane or Northern NSW.
. Plenty of places about Sydney, the North or South Heads with Blue Mountains too, Jenolan Caves up there as well as many lovely gardens.
. Seahorse Inn - Boutique Waterfront Hotel, Boydtown Eden , lovely spot on NSW south coast and many more options.
. Melbourne has the Dandenongs and Mornington Peninsula amongst other areas to find some lovely locations, St. Michaels at Kalorama or Sherbrooke Lodge for the former or the gardens about Melbourne itself.
Parks Victoria: Parkweb.vic.gov.au is a great reference site to lovely locations.
. Plenty of spectacular locations along the coast from Melbourne towards Adelaide, Victor Harbour where a horse drawn carriage goes over to Granite Island as regular on hour daily transport and of course the Adelaide Hills with Barossa Valley.

So anyway, you and your to be need to get somewhere sorted as well as a minister or celebrant and once having an idea of location he'll find plenty of celebrants listed online.
Celebrants Online-Your marriage celebrant-marriage celebrants/wedding celebrants/civil celebrants in Victoria, NSW, Queensland, ACT, Tasmania, WA, SA & NT, Australia

A minister/celebrant might be the best one to say what they need, either accepting a NOIM signed by your fiance alone or they may accept one form signed by you and faxed or scanned and emailed and another by your fiance.
The minister/celebrant will then be able to issue a letter and your fiance can send that over to you with his sponsor form.

The other approach you could take re location is just get somewhere OK and notice in with a minister/celebrant and when you get out here, you could have a look at different places and make a new booking within the 9 months if you wanted to, might just mean losing NOIM registration/booking fees.

As far as nominating a date, it is a little presumptuous of Immi for the processing of a PMV can be of variable length and though 5 months is nominal time, it could be 3 months or say 6 months and you also need to allow at least a couple of months for getting all your supportive evidence together.
For instance, if you were in Australia or any other country for more than 12 months, you'll need police checks from those countries as well as the UK.

So, I'd not be thinking of a date earlier than 12 months from now and say up to no more than 15 months away to fall in with the within 9 months from grant date though that could be managed somewhat with granting.

Have fun, it's supposed to be a good time!





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I was a little confused by this part of the application too

Do we need to set a date and book a day to get married before we lodge the Prospective Spouse application?

My fiancees best friend from school is now a Justice of the Peace, and he can marry couples. My fiancee wants him to marry us so do we just get a letter from him, or do we have to book a venue as well?


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I was a little confused by this part of the application too

Do we need to set a date and book a day to get married before we lodge the Prospective Spouse application?

My fiancees best friend from school is now a Justice of the Peace, and he can marry couples. My fiancee wants him to marry us so do we just get a letter from him, or do we have to book a venue as well?
It's not so much a venue Jools, as setting a date with a JP/Celebrant and many people use celebrants for the flexibility it offers re outdoor settings, in a park, nice gardens or a beach setting etc.
There are many great private gardens and some that have public access or have been bequested to the state and have particular opening hours and conditions of use, so permission/bookings may be needed.

A minister on the other hand is usually attached to a church.

But with the JP, there'll still need to be the legalities of a NOIM and that has to be lodged at least a month and a day before the wedding date, JPs and Celebrants being aware of all the requirements and it would not be a legal marriage if they do not comply.

And so yes, regardless of where, booking or not, all you need is the letter.





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Thanks wanderer

So, just to clarify, if I get the JP we know to write a letter it must include a date we are planning on getting married?

Its confusing as I don't know how long the visa will take to process so setting a date now seems odd


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So, just to clarify, if I get the JP we know to write a letter it must include a date we are planning on getting married?

Its confusing as I don't know how long the visa will take to process so setting a date now seems odd
That's correct and that date'll likely be on the NOIM form, not to say it cannot be changed later.

But re visa processing variations, that's exactly why I stated above
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As far as nominating a date, it is a little presumptuous of Immi for the processing of a PMV can be of variable length and though 5 months is nominal time, it could be 3 months or say 6 months and you also need to allow at least a couple of months for getting all your supportive evidence together.
For instance, if you were in Australia or any other country for more than 12 months, you'll need police checks from those countries as well as the UK.

So, I'd not be thinking of a date earlier than 12 months from now and say up to no more than 15 months away to fall in with the within 9 months from grant date though that could be managed somewhat with granting.
The 5 months being nominal time for a LR country and double that for a HR country.





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