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Old 03-12-2010, 06:09 PM
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After recently being made redundant as a mechanic in the UK, A friend and ex colleague in Brisbane told me I should go over to Brisbane and stay with him. I contacted the Manager of the dealership he worked at who confirmed there was a position available (which ive now secured) and told me that as the six months are coming to an end there is a chance Il be sponsored by them to stay on.

My Girlfriend and I are both 24 and have been together for almost 5 years. we have never lived together but have taken many holidays together which we could find documents to prove. We were looking to buy our first home prior to my redundancy.

My Girlfriend and I are both UK citizens and have been since birth. She is planning to visit me during the initial six months on a tourist visa. After this she plans to come over for 6 months on a working visa.

My issue is where to go after the her six months is up? (presuming Id have been sponsored) as were not married and have not lived together. We will be staying with my friend in Brisbane so will have no rental agreement in Australia.

The reason she is not joining me initially is she is working as an adminastration manager full time aswell as attending college in her own time doing a course in Accounting. The first year exams are in June and once she has completed the first year she plans to apply for the working visa.

My question is what are the chances of getting a spouse or de-facto visa for my parter.

Thanks for reading and advice

Nathan


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Old 03-12-2010, 06:11 PM
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Also worth noting that Ive come up with the idea that we will open a joint bank account here in the UK tommorow. Even if we dont use it it shows that we have been together for at least this amount of time. I have applied today for my working visa and expect an answer early next week

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After recently being made redundant as a mechanic in the UK, A friend and ex colleague in Brisbane told me I should go over to Brisbane and stay with him. I contacted the Manager of the dealership he worked at who confirmed there was a position available (which ive now secured) and told me that as the six months are coming to an end there is a chance Il be sponsored by them to stay on.

My Girlfriend and I are both 24 and have been together for almost 5 years. we have never lived together but have taken many holidays together which we could find documents to prove. We were looking to buy our first home prior to my redundancy.

My Girlfriend and I are both UK citizens and have been since birth. She is planning to visit me during the initial six months on a tourist visa. After this she plans to come over for 6 months on a working visa.

My issue is where to go after the her six months is up? (presuming Id have been sponsored) as were not married and have not lived together. We will be staying with my friend in Brisbane so will have no rental agreement in Australia.

The reason she is not joining me initially is she is working as an adminastration manager full time aswell as attending college in her own time doing a course in Accounting. The first year exams are in June and once she has completed the first year she plans to apply for the working visa.

My question is what are the chances of getting a spouse or de-facto visa for my parter.

Thanks for reading and advice

Nathan
Hopefully that'll be good news for you Natham if you get sponsored and it will depend on the sponsorship just what can happen re your girlfriend and getting her included as a defacto.

Whereas there are stringent conditions attached to a defacto visa where a permanent resident or citizen is having a partner apply for what will also eventually be a PR or a person with a partner is applying for PR and evidence of a relationship is required, that is not so if you are sponsored on a TR - 457 visa, details @ Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457)

Most employers initially seem to go with the TR 457 in the first instance but if in time the employer is eligible and prepared to move the sponsorship on to PR and your Gf has decided to stay in Australia with you, then with residing together for 12 months you would have the basis for her to be able to be included as your partner on a PR vis application.

Have you done your TRA assessment btw for that ought to be done for your sponsorship, a link on Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457)





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Old 03-13-2010, 12:34 AM
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I havent done an actual assesment, I looked at the link that you provided and read through the eligibility for a partner but find it a little confusing. The main problem it seems is that we have never lived together. Once my sponsorship goes through my girlfriend plans to come to live with me in our friends house, so we would have proof of living together. Proof being bank accounts etc but not a rental agreement. My girlfriend was initially planning to travel on a working visa to allow her to work for six months. Is it best that she then stops working and stays for a further six months and then apply for a defacto visa? Or am I missing something. Is she able be a part of my Visa to cut out the whole working visa for her in the first place.

Sorry if im unclear. Im trying to get my head around this as only started looking into this today.

Your time and effort is greatly appreciated wanderer thank you


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I havent done an actual assesment, I looked at the link that you provided and read through the eligibility for a partner but find it a little confusing. The main problem it seems is that we have never lived together. Once my sponsorship goes through my girlfriend plans to come to live with me in our friends house, so we would have proof of living together. Proof being bank accounts etc but not a rental agreement. My girlfriend was initially planning to travel on a working visa to allow her to work for six months. Is it best that she then stops working and stays for a further six months and then apply for a defacto visa? Or am I missing something. Is she able be a part of my Visa to cut out the whole working visa for her in the first place.

Sorry if im unclear. Im trying to get my head around this as only started looking into this today.

Your time and effort is greatly appreciated wanderer thank you
It'll be up to the employer if he is prepared to employ you without a TRA assessment and licensing /registration is not required in Queensland and most other states, [email protected] Motor Mechanic 4211-11 - Supervisor 4125-01 - Australian Skills Recognition Information
so it'll possibly be OK re bing emplyed for the 6 months while on a WHV.
But come time for employer sponsorship and you'll likely find TRA assessment is necessary so you ought to get on to that as soon as you are in Oz., for it can take a while.

Re the Gf. and
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Whereas there are stringent conditions attached to a defacto visa where a permanent resident or citizen is having a partner apply for what will also eventually be a PR or a person with a partner is applying for PR and evidence of a relationship is required, that is not so if you are sponsored on a TR - 457 visa, details @ Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457)
, sure there are relationship requirements for a defacto where PR is ultimately involved, details @ Partner Visa: Offshore Temporary and Permanent (Subclasses 309 and 100)
It does not always go into such detail where a partner is being included as a secondary applicant on an application for PR by someone else as you'll find
@ Employer Nomination Scheme (Subclass 121/856) looking at eligibility for a family member [ includes defacto partners ] but rest assured, where PR is involved, they'll want the partner evidence, the relationship.

You'll find on the 457 partner eligibility link above - Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457) , the same reference as for the ENS but the 457 being just a temporary residency visa, there is not the relationship testing.

If you put your Gf on your 457 and that you are applying for that before she is ready to come on a WHV, she could just come on a 457 partner visa and be free to work but with any studying here, she would pay international student rates while TR.

As I've said, if you start looking at a more permanent life in Australia for you both, in applying for a PR visa, you would have to have relationship evidence.

It really comes down to TR Vs PR.





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