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what is the eligibility date? the date u got ur 820 granted letter?
Eligibility date is 2 years after you applied for your 820.


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If you feel the need to say anything, why not simply say you're an "Australian resident with unlimited work entitlement".
Agree! They don't ask you don't tell, you don't lie you don't hide. Tell them what that want to hear, such as "unlimited work", simple

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Hi Keano

I just checked what I put on my husband's cover letter and I had "I have an indefinite temporary visa for Australia with unlimited work rights".

Some people will say that you need PR but I know alot that have gotten jobs on temporary visa's.

It may also depend on what job you are looking for.
A lot of it depends on the jobs you're applying for. Seems to me that the higher qualified you are, the harder it is get jobs!! Maybe not true for everyone but in my husband's line of work, qualified Australians are finding times tough. But one of the hardest things to overcome is the regional bias against Temporary Residents and the reliance on TAFE certificates, which when you have post-doctoral qualifications are just plain silly.

My husband is finally biting the bullet and getting Certificate IV qualifications, but this is also fraught with danger as there are so many cowboy training organisations out there, so we are doing a lot of research before we buy.

The husband also has an interview next week with a man who has been through the whole Temporary Resident thing so we can only hope something will come of that.

But in the meantime, if they don't ask we don't mention residency status at all.


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A lot of it depends on the jobs you're applying for. Seems to me that the higher qualified you are, the harder it is get jobs!! Maybe not true for everyone but in my husband's line of work, qualified Australians are finding times tough. But one of the hardest things to overcome is the regional bias against Temporary Residents and the reliance on TAFE certificates, which when you have post-doctoral qualifications are just plain silly.

My husband is finally biting the bullet and getting Certificate IV qualifications, but this is also fraught with danger as there are so many cowboy training organisations out there, so we are doing a lot of research before we buy.

The husband also has an interview next week with a man who has been through the whole Temporary Resident thing so we can only hope something will come of that.

But in the meantime, if they don't ask we don't mention residency status at all.
As I said "it depends on the job".

It is also depends on location too. I know someone who got an IT job on a PMV where alot say you need PR for degree jobs.

I have a friend who works in HR and they don't even look at people who have foreign work experience and don't mention their visa. She said they don't want to waste their time on them incase they are a student visa holder.

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As I said "it depends on the job".

It is also depends on location too. I know someone who got an IT job on a PMV where alot say you need PR for degree jobs.

I have a friend who works in HR and they don't even look at people who have foreign work experience and don't mention their visa. She said they don't want to waste their time on them incase they are a student visa holder.
You just answered a long held suspicion of mine - employers are sceptical as to whether the permanent residency visa will be granted so they are reluctant to hire a temporary resident for that reason.

But while I have you here lol, just when do you get to the 'over qualified' stage? Husband is just going through the process of getting a TAE even though he has been training in a voluntary capacity and a WH&S Cert IV to update his British qualifications. But he has a PhD to begin with so I don't want him to get bogged down in more qualifications.

Would rather he finally paint the house which he has been promising to do for THREE YEARS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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You just answered a long held suspicion of mine - employers are sceptical as to whether the permanent residency visa will be granted so they are reluctant to hire a temporary resident for that reason.

But while I have you here lol, just when do you get to the 'over qualified' stage? Husband is just going through the process of getting a TAE even though he has been training in a voluntary capacity and a WH&S Cert IV to update his British qualifications. But he has a PhD to begin with so I don't want him to get bogged down in more qualifications.

Would rather he finally paint the house which he has been promising to do for THREE YEARS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It all depends on the job. My husband is on a temporary visa and they had no issue hiring him BUT the person who hired him was going through a partner visa process for his wife so maybe that had something to do with it.

My other friend's husband could have just got lucky who knows.

Sometimes I think it is luck of the draw.

My husband didn't have any luck on the PMV but once he got the 820 got alot of interviews and job very fast.

When he was on PMV he even tried for a call centre job and had the issue that you mentioned about being overqualified. It is a big issue because they are worried you will leave. He could always remove the PHD from his resume but you still have the issue of his work experience. The only way around it is if you change careers.

Have you looked at aged care? I have heard they need people at have the course you get a job easy. Not sure how the truth is.

One thing I will say is one guy my husband knows from Egypt has been been over 12 months and is still struggling to find a job and he came on a 309!! Luck of the draw and location - he lived in country NSW and now Melbourne.

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The 801 approval is not 2 years from your 820 date. 2 years from your 820 application date is when you submit the documents (you can submit up to 2 months prior), then DIBP assess it and then grant or reject it. Currently it is taking anywhere between 4 months and 15 months to process - DIBP are quoting 13 to 15 months.

DIBP will not approve the 801 without additional documents. It is up to you to know when the 2 years is as sometimes people don't get an email from them.

You need to provide evidence since the grant of the 820 and it is the same level of evidence as you supplied for the 820.


This is what I got from the 820 Grant Letter

<< Maintaining a valid visa
You have been granted a temporary visa and will become eligible for consideration for the
grant of a permanent visa. You do not need to make a further application for the permanent visa. Generally, applicants become eligible two years after the date of the lodgement of the
combined application
. Shortly before that date, the department will write to you and invite to provide further information.>>

So Mish, you are right. I thought 2 years from the date I submitted the 820 application I would have gonna my 801.

Based on this..I applied dec 2014, so the latest to submit the documents for 801 would be dec 2016. And from there, the waiting time is 4 to 15 months. From this stand, I might even get my 801 approval news on DEC 2017 or FEB 2018...am i right?


Holly mama...one can be on temp visa for a good 2 years at least! What do you all recommend usually for this period, in the consideration of getting a house, family planning...such a limbo state.



"You need to provide evidence since the grant of the 820 and it is the same level of evidence as you supplied for the 820." -- > like what you stated, new evidences since grant of 820, which exactly starts right now! how about the evidences that were submitted for 820, can be given for 801 application? would that be an issue of duplication?


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A lot of it depends on the jobs you're applying for. Seems to me that the higher qualified you are, the harder it is get jobs!! Maybe not true for everyone but in my husband's line of work, qualified Australians are finding times tough. But one of the hardest things to overcome is the regional bias against Temporary Residents and the reliance on TAFE certificates, which when you have post-doctoral qualifications are just plain silly.

My husband is finally biting the bullet and getting Certificate IV qualifications, but this is also fraught with danger as there are so many cowboy training organisations out there, so we are doing a lot of research before we buy.

The husband also has an interview next week with a man who has been through the whole Temporary Resident thing so we can only hope something will come of that.

But in the meantime, if they don't ask we don't mention residency status at all.

yeah..I am thinking of doing a career change / TAFE or cert 4 etc..

headache..


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As I said "it depends on the job".

It is also depends on location too. I know someone who got an IT job on a PMV where alot say you need PR for degree jobs.

I have a friend who works in HR and they don't even look at people who have foreign work experience and don't mention their visa. She said they don't want to waste their time on them incase they are a student visa holder.
Mish you have been very helpful. Thanks!

Last thing, can i check this friend of yours working in HR..which sector he or she in? Finance / banking?

Because i am in the finance line..hence I am thinking should i put my visa details on the Cover letter or should I nnot hhaha...


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