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Skilled Independent Visa 175 Rumors - Do I qualify?


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Old 03-16-2010, 11:00 PM
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Skilled Independent Visa 175 Rumors - Do I qualify?

So I am trying to obtain a skilled independent visa in order to be able to find a job in Australia and move there (unless I can find a sponsor in the next couple of months).

In the last few weeks I have heard an incredible amount of "different versions" about my possibilities of actually getting one of these Visas, but after extensively reading the immi.gov.au site, I can't really see why I wouldn't qualify.

I am a 25 year old (30 points there) civil engineer (60 points) with 3 years work experience in my specific occupation (10 points). I speak fluent English (another 25) and portuguese, since it's my native tongue and my university can provide me with the documentation (5 points). I also qualify in all the basic requirements so I foresee no trouble there.

Also, I have a german passport (double nationality), I don't really know if it helps somehow.

So... This amounts to 130 points. More than enough to risk spending 1700 euros in getting this Visa, right? It seems that the form in the DIC's website doesn't add the community language points, but I score 125 anyway.

What bothers me is that I keep hearing that a 175 visa only gets issued to commonwealth citizens or that it's not even being issued at all... What do you reckon I should do?

I'm calling the embassy in Berlin this Friday, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared for the conversation.


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Old 03-17-2010, 12:24 AM
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So I am trying to obtain a skilled independent visa in order to be able to find a job in Australia and move there (unless I can find a sponsor in the next couple of months).

In the last few weeks I have heard an incredible amount of "different versions" about my possibilities of actually getting one of these Visas, but after extensively reading the immi.gov.au site, I can't really see why I wouldn't qualify.

I am a 25 year old (30 points there) civil engineer (60 points) with 3 years work experience in my specific occupation (10 points). I speak fluent English (another 25) and portuguese, since it's my native tongue and my university can provide me with the documentation (5 points). I also qualify in all the basic requirements so I foresee no trouble there.

Also, I have a german passport (double nationality), I don't really know if it helps somehow.

So... This amounts to 130 points. More than enough to risk spending 1700 euros in getting this Visa, right? It seems that the form in the DIC's website doesn't add the community language points, but I score 125 anyway.

What bothers me is that I keep hearing that a 175 visa only gets issued to commonwealth citizens or that it's not even being issued at all... What do you reckon I should do?

I'm calling the embassy in Berlin this Friday, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared for the conversation.
I think what you have read Felipe is more reliable than versions you've heard or rumours.
Your points tallying is about right as per Skilled – Independent (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 175)

To get the full 25 points for english you'll need to get your sevens score at IELTS [ and even native english speakers need to do that ].
You'll also see community language listed on the eligibility table.

There's not any favourites played re skilled visa applicants and I'd doubt that anyone in Berlin you get to speak to will be able to shed much light on the situation for you'll likely only get through to an employed local who knows little of policy developments until they are to be implemented in the form pf a Policy Advice Manual that immigration people work to.
Though European people will use different offices for some visas, I think you'll find that skilled visa applications [ online preferred ] go to Australia.
You can check that in the applying for this visa section of the 175 online info.
Australia btw has people with origins from over 200 different countries and we're very much a land of immigrants.

That said, there are some factors that could lead to rumours of various sorts.
. Changes announced and in progress - What's New? Recent Changes in General Skilled Migration
I can imagine as a result that there could have been a great influx of applications from people with occupations on the CSL.
There'll not be too many 175s issued at all at the moment unless they have had the higher priority of being on CSL.
Increased numbers of applications will give the impression of many more waiting to be processed.

Some people may have even been attempting to get State Sponsorship to give them higher priority and then found that in itself to be a lengthy task and I've not checked but it would not surprise me if some states are advising re sponsorship being on hold [ various reasons ] and that again could give rise to rumours re visa processing for some people do get state sponsorship a bit too enterwined with the actual immigration department process where in fact they are two separate processes, one involving a state government and the other the Australian federal government.

There is also one particular forum I know of [ in the commonwealth mother country you could say ] where rather than promote understanding of the changes that have been made to immigration policies from beginning of 2009 there has been more a promotion of anger for whereas people had a belief that visas could be granted in X ammount of time [ never guaranteed and it has always been a flexible length based on variable conditions ] , it is now for many an indefinite Y number of years.

Some people having had applications they considered to be very close to completion, [ and some indications of that in some cases ] started making arrangements, ie. putting homes on the market and in some cases selling them to find that their application was put on ice.
The global financial crisis along with a collapse in housing markets has then compounded the situation of many people and Australian immigration policy has then become a huge target.

I have even read of people stating that because they have finance [ possibly from selling a home ] and will be self funded, they should be given their visa.
To suggest questioning just how well they may feel, spending many more thousands of $$$$ to get to Australia, find that housing is very expensive and that there is no work and then to have that self funding dry up falls on death ears!

Some applications formerly close to completion have since been reactivated for processing but that is very dependent on numbers of higher priority applications in the system.
That number possibly grew very rapidly from early this year when people thought that further change being talked of and the removal of the CSL could affect them having a priority listing for visa processing, and thus the waiting lower priority applications people will consider they have been even harder done by.

What the Australian government is intending tyo achieve with the changes that have been brought about is to move from a supply [ and over supply in many areas ] driven system to a demand driven one and hence the focus on employer sponsorship, a change that will take some time to be fully or more developed and in looking to that approach, the Immigration department is realising that the needs of the states will be different and hence the State Migration Plans format to replace the CSL.

Whatever system we have, there will always likely be issues to be addressed for when you are dealing with balancing the demand/supply of skills for any country, there'll always be many variables and Australia with its relative isolation and youth re developed history has different factors to what Europe and the UK has.

Connected to the demand/supply situation and of a political nature, any government always be aware of the employment situation and though unemployment in Australia has not been as high as some other countries, it has risen since the end of 2008, thus there can be some union sentiments expressed re immigration rates, something our current Labor government would be conscious of and re different factors, you may appreciate that with a relative small population and our proximity to cheap labour countries of Asia and India, manufacturing options here are limited and in deed it does disappear overseas from time to time, thus we have a huge reliance on the resources industry for trading with Asia and India etc. to maintain wealth and employment in other areas.

The states of WA, SA and Queensland and to some extent the NT have the greater ammount of resources developments, many in harsh climatic conditions and it can be difficult at times to get people going to those areas, hence one reason for targetting with State Migration Plans.
A WA business council guy just the other day was spruiking on how WA will need 400,000 skilled people in next decade for resources development on the back of Chinese as the new world developing economic power.
All I'll say is there's interesting times ahead globally and for Australia re such predictions.

So enough on my surmising and back to whether to apply for a 175 visa.
As a Civil Engineer you're currently on the CSL and if you're ready to submit your application, no reason not to.
I just posted re CSL now Vs what next and will link that thread.
http://www.australiaforum.com/visas-...e-revoked.html
But essentially with higher skilled people such as engineers there'll be a demand and as there is priority now with CSL, it'll be via the SMPs or alternatively as you are aware of, employer sponsorship.
And union sentiment is not a consideration re professionals.

Did you get in touch with people at Toowoomba btw?





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Wow, Wanderer. Thank you very much for taking the time to write that huge answer.

As I understand from what you've written, there is an advantage in applying before the CSL gets revoked?

The people in Toowoomba Regional Council haven't said anything, but I haven't really kept in contact besides sending in my resume when it was requested. I think I'll try to trace the e-mail address of the water engineering supervisor and try to contact him (or her).


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As I understand from what you've written, there is an advantage in applying before the CSL gets revoked?
If you are ready to get your application in, doing it earlier than later will at least see you with potential for getting a visa earlier and even if transitional arrangements make it that you need to go with a State Migration Plan to access higher priority, that'll still likely be just a switch option akin to getting a state sponsorship and seeing as you cannot do that yet anyway, there's no down side.

If you have a look at the Toowoomba authority site and look under employment, you'll see the name amd phone number contact for the position, so a call to explain your immigration intent would do no harm.





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