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Old 03-20-2010, 05:54 PM
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Skilled indepedent application queries

Hi all
a quick summary of our position:

At early stages & haven't lodged an application yet.
I'm Scottish, living in Ireland with Irish wife. Have a brother who's lived in Perth for 15 years & has PR. He is willing to act as sponsor.
I'm over 45 so applying on my wife's skills, which is an IT Systems Programmer City & Guilds from a recognised Dublin college.
My wife will turn 39 (for the first time!) this summer.
Neither of us has any health issues or worries about police checks.
A few questions on the basics which i'd be very grateful for any advice on before i start throwing cash at an application:

The ACS (Australian computer society) website isn't an easy read. Is my wife's qualification likely to be sufficient?
We both work long hours & have a patchy internet connection at home - is it advisable to use an agent & what are the typical costs of same?
Although the application system is points based, how much, if any, credence is given to personal issues? Having lost both parents in the last 2 years, my brother is as keen for me to join him as I am.

I'm sure I'll have lots more questions in time, any help with the above would be great. Meantime, if any info I've gleaned from visits regarding jobs, house prices etc would be useful to anyone, i'd be more than happy to try & help.


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Hi all
a quick summary of our position:

At early stages & haven't lodged an application yet.
I'm Scottish, living in Ireland with Irish wife. Have a brother who's lived in Perth for 15 years & has PR. He is willing to act as sponsor.
I'm over 45 so applying on my wife's skills, which is an IT Systems Programmer City & Guilds from a recognised Dublin college.
My wife will turn 39 (for the first time!) this summer.
Neither of us has any health issues or worries about police checks.
A few questions on the basics which i'd be very grateful for any advice on before i start throwing cash at an application:

The ACS (Australian computer society) website isn't an easy read. Is my wife's qualification likely to be sufficient?
We both work long hours & have a patchy internet connection at home - is it advisable to use an agent & what are the typical costs of same?
Although the application system is points based, how much, if any, credence is given to personal issues? Having lost both parents in the last 2 years, my brother is as keen for me to join him as I am.

I'm sure I'll have lots more questions in time, any help with the above would be great. Meantime, if any info I've gleaned from visits regarding jobs, house prices etc would be useful to anyone, i'd be more than happy to try & help.
The ACS professions assessment are generally based on someone having a degree with a minimim 4 years experience though there has also been some provision for recognition of appropriate non degree qualifications with more years [ perhaps 8 ] of suitable experience.
Your wife ought to look @ A-Z Occupations List - Australian Skills Recognition Information in first instance to see what Computer occupation she best matches to and then just take time [ get to a better connection if need be ] to check out the ACS site in detail.

Sorry about your loss of parents but unfortunately that does not come into calculation re the points assessment.
There are under family visas, what is called a Remaining Relative Visa but key requirement other than a relative in Australia is
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•you and your partner have no brothers, sisters, non-dependent children, parents (or step-equivalents) other than those in Australia.
Remaining Relative Visa (Offshore) (Subclass 115)

You could also have your brother getting very familiar with your wife's computer profession abilities and on the lookout for any suitable positions and do some scouting about with employers re an employer sponsorship.





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Hi Wanderer

Thanks very much for the prompt & informative reply.

Unfortunately, it looks like your assessment is pretty much in line with our fears - that a City & Guilds may not be a strong enough qualification even though it's a 3rd level education. On the bright side, she does have considerable experience so maybe not all's lost yet.

We'll dedicate more time to thoroughly checking out the ACS site & see if we can progress any further. The sole surviving relative clause doesn't work for me. My brother would give my wife a job in his business but that doesn't count because he has less than 10 employees, so I'll see if he can do anything else on the employer sponsorship side.

All in all, it's looking like an uphill struggle.
many thanks again for your advice.


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Hi Wanderer

Thanks very much for the prompt & informative reply.

Unfortunately, it looks like your assessment is pretty much in line with our fears - that a City & Guilds may not be a strong enough qualification even though it's a 3rd level education. On the bright side, she does have considerable experience so maybe not all's lost yet.

We'll dedicate more time to thoroughly checking out the ACS site & see if we can progress any further. The sole surviving relative clause doesn't work for me. My brother would give my wife a job in his business but that doesn't count because he has less than 10 employees, so I'll see if he can do anything else on the employer sponsorship side.

All in all, it's looking like an uphill struggle.
many thanks again for your advice.
I've seen the 10 employee requirement in the past and reference has always been tucked away hard to find but I'm not all that sure it is still a requirement, not that I can find it still anyway, it not seeming to be on Employer Nomination Scheme (Subclass 121/856) or in Booklet #5 that I can see.
Do you have a link for it from current info on the Immi site?





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I've seen the 10 employee requirement in the past and reference has always been tucked away hard to find but I'm not all that sure it is still a requirement, not that I can find it still, not seming to be on..... [Do you have a link for it from current info on the Immi site?
Hi again
I read it on a PDF file my wife printed out a few weeks ago. I've tried, but can't find it online at this moment. I'll keep looking though.

The relevant text is in the General Skilled Migration notes & application form, part 3 points test & self-assessment, page 28.
Reading through it again, you get 20 points if:
"you have an offer of full-time employment in (a skilled occupation that appears on the MODL list) that occupation or a closely related skilled occupation from a business that has employed at least 10 people full time in the 24 months immediately before lodging your application"
which isn't quite the same as saying they can't sponsor or employ you if they don't meet that criteria, maybe it just means you don't get the points.
I'm going to dig further into this tomorrow, will post anything relevant I dig up.

Thanks again for trying to help.


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Hi again
I read it on a PDF file my wife printed out a few weeks ago. I've tried, but can't find it online at this moment. I'll keep looking though.

The relevant text is in the General Skilled Migration notes & application form, part 3 points test & self-assessment, page 28.
Reading through it again, you get 20 points if:
"you have an offer of full-time employment in (a skilled occupation that appears on the MODL list) that occupation or a closely related skilled occupation from a business that has employed at least 10 people full time in the 24 months immediately before lodging your application"
which isn't quite the same as saying they can't sponsor or employ you if they don't meet that criteria, maybe it just means you don't get the points.
I'm going to dig further into this tomorrow, will post anything relevant I dig up.

Thanks again for trying to help.
That's actually probably where I recall having seen it, come to think of it and yep, nothing to do with sponsorship, employer sponsorship having no points testing.

The MODL btw is now also obsolete, it having been revoked early February.

I'd be getting Bro to have a good read of employer eligibility requirements re the temporary residency 457 visa and whether his company would also be eligible re the PR step which could occur after two years.





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