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De facto Living together- a few more questions...


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Old 11-15-2013, 06:49 AM
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De facto Living together- a few more questions...

Hi,

So I posted previously and my boyfriend has decided (since he is living with friends but I am living in a share house where I have to give 1 months notice)
that its easier for him to up sticks and move in with me (he did this yesterday). We are going to open a joint account tomorrow to pay the rent with and change address for the mail.

This is where Im stuck, because all of our bank statements are online, and apart from the odd present sent from the UK and junk mail, we dont really HAVE any mail as such.

So what does Immigration need as proof for this specifically? Do we just inform them we moved where and when and they check? Or do we need to show them the actual mail? So do I have to change our bank statements to paper, xmas cards etc take the letter contents out but keep the envelopes? For a year?

Also my student visa runs out November 2014 and we moved in together on the 14th, which means I have to wait until after the 14th next year to apply for the defacto in order to have the 12 month living together rule. If after we apply and my student visa runs out, do I have to leave the country or can I stay while they are processing it? And what kind of visa do I get to stay on?

Sorry for all the questions but a lot of places that we will need to inform of the address change (college, medicare, his company etc) arent ever really going to send us anything. Once we have our own house in a month or so then we will have household bills and things but at the moment theres not much so Im really reaching here.

Thanks for all the help so far, its been very useful!!!!


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Hi there,
We're applying for the 309 so i'm no expert on the 820 (which is the visa i assume you're applying for). Ill tell you what i know.

The first piece of advice i would give you would be to officially register your relationship in your state. This shows a great amount of commitment and it actually wavers the 12 month rule from what i understand. You do of course need to show them you have been living together for a substantial amount of time but it doesn't have to be exactly 12 months if you register.

As for the bank account and bills, you will need to show them your bank statements. They look at the bank statements to see you have both been contributing and paying your bills, rent, insurances etc (just like a supposed married couple would).

It would be good if you could get your bills in both names. It's an absolute hassle but it will help your case. Mail addressed to both of you from family and friends such as christmas cards is also great. You'll need to show immigration you live together through some from of registration...for example in our case we have letters from the local council stating where we live and also a letter of permission from the apartment owner saying i could join my boyfriend living here. If you can't get the contract in both names you'll need a statement from your room mates saying your partner also lived there.

All these details you should collect over one year. It's a lot but unfortunately you need it.

From what i understand when you lodge the 820 you will go onto a bridging visa so yes you can stay in the country.

If you haven't already, look at the partner migration booklet

Booklet 1, Partner Migration

Hope that helped a bit!


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Old 11-15-2013, 07:21 AM
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Hi,
So I posted previously and my boyfriend has decided (since he is living with friends but I am living in a share house where I have to give 1 months notice)
that its easier for him to up sticks and move in with me (he did this yesterday). We are going to open a joint account tomorrow to pay the rent with and change address for the mail.
This is where Im stuck, because all of our bank statements are online, and apart from the odd present sent from the UK and junk mail, we dont really HAVE any mail as such.
So what does Immigration need as proof for this specifically? Do we just inform them we moved where and when and they check? Or do we need to show them the actual mail? So do I have to change our bank statements to paper, xmas cards etc take the letter contents out but keep the envelopes? For a year?
I think DIBP want to see important letters sent to the same address, e.g. letters from government organisations (ATO, Dept of Transport, Centrelink, Medicare etc) and banks. If it is a letter, normally the address is printed on the letter, hence no need to keep the envelopes. Christmas cards, birthday cards and letters from family & friends sent to the same address are good example too.


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Also my student visa runs out November 2014 and we moved in together on the 14th, which means I have to wait until after the 14th next year to apply for the defacto in order to have the 12 month living together rule. If after we apply and my student visa runs out, do I have to leave the country or can I stay while they are processing it? And what kind of visa do I get to stay on?
It is advisable to submit your application at least 10 days before your current visa expired. Once you have lodged your 820 and your current visa expired, you will be on BV A, which have no work limitations. But you would need to apply for a BV B if you want to travel outside Australia while on BV A.


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Old 11-15-2013, 07:55 AM
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Hi,

Unfortunately we can't register in the state we live in.

The main problem is this is just temporary accommodation until January. We are in the process of looking for our own house. So if we are only living here for 6 weeks or so then the chances of us actually getting any mail in such a short ratio did slim. I have changed address with ato Medicare etc before but they never sent me anything on paper so I couldn't really prove that. This is why I'm worried.
If when I change the address, can I request these places send me something on paper to confirm it?


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* in such a short space of time is slim.*

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It sounds like you will have a little bit of evidence that you both lived at this address..along with statements from anyone that lived there too. Then when you move into your new place you will have time to collect much more living together evidence at your new address.

I think you might be worrying too much - I know they are strict on the 12mths but no ordinary couple would surely change their address with all govt departments if they were only staying somewhere for a few weeks. I think you will be fine if you just explain all this in your statements and even tho you might not get correspondence from some of these department you could always include the email or dated form that you used to advise of your change of address.

I am a little more worried that you plan to file your partner visa application on the last day of your WHV but perhaps someone who has done this successfully will be able to give you some advice

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[QUOTE="meesha121;245298"]It sounds like you will have a little bit of evidence that you both lived at this address..along with statements from anyone that lived there too. Then when you move into your new place you will have time to collect much more living together evidence at your new address.

I think you might be worrying too much - I know they are strict on the 12mths but no ordinary couple would surely change their address with all govt departments if they were only staying somewhere for a few weeks. I think you will be fine if you just explain all this in your statements and even tho you might not get correspondence from some of these department you could always include the email or dated form that you used to advise of your change of address.


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Old 11-15-2013, 08:26 AM
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I'm on a student visa. I didn't realise that you couldn't register de facto in WA so I thought we had more time. But a year from now will be the 15th Nov, and my visa runs out on the 26th Nov so unfortunately we will just have that short space of time to apply. :-(


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If you can, I'd specifically ask a few family members to send you a letter or card or postcard or something at this address to generate some early evidence. If you're on good terms with your housemates, simply ask them to either hold any mail that arrives after you leave so you can pick it up, or have your mail forwarded to your new address.


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