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Jamesy 02-28-2015 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MaryV (Post 795193)
We applied april 2014 online in Vic too but never got an email apart from the acknowledgement and bridging visa. Is that a good or bad sign? :(

I think at the end of the day, no news is good news. If they sent all applications to Perth they'd have nothing to do at the Melbourne office. :)

I assume they took a chunk and sent them over due to the Perth branch being able to support extra intake of applications. I wouldn't worry yourself.

MaryV 02-28-2015 01:39 AM

This waiting game is driving me nuts. People who applied and proved they are in a genuine relationship shouldnt wait for this long. And for the amount we payed, its just ridiculous. Putting everything on hold for someone to decide if we are indeed inlove and should be together is something beyond me. Sorry for the rant. Its just frustrating as we have a baby and i have to work fulltime for my 457visa instead of spending time with her. :(

emivovo 02-28-2015 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mish (Post 794345)
Congrats!

You do seem a little confused. The 820 is a temporary visa not like a bridging visa - employers don't like the bridging visa (some do but alot don't).

Here are the steps:
1/ arrive in Australia before must enter date (do not get married before entry)
2/ get married within 9 months of grant
3/ apply for 820 (you don't need as much evidence as a straight 820)
4/ 820 usually approved within a few weeks but we do have a few that have taken a few months or so (reasons unknown)
5/ you will get a letter a few months before you are eligible for the 801 (eligible 2 years after application date of 820)
6/ you will need to gather all your evidence and submit it for 801.
7/ PR is then grant and you can enjoy the life of not collecting evidence!

With the 801 Mark said recently he is seeing more rejections so make sure you keep that evidence. Mark has said to submit the same amount as you would for an 820 (not a PMV to 820 as that doesn't require alot of evidence).

Good luck any questions feel free to ask.

Gosh I was a bit off the mark there, I'm glad I asked. Thank you!

Ahhh, so the 820 visa is just a temporary visa (for two years) between PMV300 and Permanent 801? It all seems so straightforward now, eeep.

Thanks for the tips on the 801 too. We made constant effort to collect evidence for months before we even compiled our 300 app, so I'll make sure we continue it over the next two years. A lot can change in two years (and with our current government :/) so this is very handy, thank you.

Just one last thing I want to clarify, after we marry and submit the application for the 820/801 (I read it is the same application?) we will just initially give a few extra documents for the 820 since we are coming off PMV, but a few months before our 820 is up, we will submit a full on application again to demonstrate the two years of our married life together for the 801. Do I have that right? Are there any more fees at the end of the 820 when you are ready for the 801?

I don't know why but this second stage seems much more complicated to me. I think because it's technically two visas. PMV I found to be a breeze (a long, drawn out laborious breeze, haha!).

Thank you again for you help!

CollegeGirl 02-28-2015 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by emivovo (Post 795241)
Gosh I was a bit off the mark there, I'm glad I asked. Thank you!

Ahhh, so the 820 visa is just a temporary visa (for two years) between PMV300 and Permanent 801? It all seems so straightforward now, eeep.

Thanks for the tips on the 801 too. We made constant effort to collect evidence for months before we even compiled our 300 app, so I'll make sure we continue it over the next two years. A lot can change in two years (and with our current government :/) so this is very handy, thank you.

Just one last thing I want to clarify, after we marry and submit the application for the 820/801 (I read it is the same application?) we will just initially give a few extra documents for the 820 since we are coming off PMV, but a few months before our 820 is up, we will submit a full on application again to demonstrate the two years of our married life together for the 801. Do I have that right? Are there any more fees at the end of the 820 when you are ready for the 801?

I don't know why but this second stage seems much more complicated to me. I think because it's technically two visas. PMV I found to be a breeze (a long, drawn out laborious breeze, haha!).

Thank you again for you help!

Yes - the 801 IS the Permanent Residency visa, so not quite as complicated as you originally thought. ;)

When you apply for the 820, it is considered an application for both the 820 and 801. That's a little misleading sounding, though. I'll get to why in a minute.

With the 820, you'll make sure you provide evidence in all four categories. Evidence of shared finances (joint bank statements, for example, are the easiest - we set up a joint bank account as soon as I arrived on my PMV), evidence of the nature of your committment to each other (wedding photos, marriage certificate, other wedding evidence, etc. makes this part easy. ;)), evidence of the nature of the household (which includes evidence of shared address, like mail coming to each of you at the same address) and evidence of the social context of your relationship, i.e. that you're socially accepted as a couple (we used cards we got from wedding attendees, photos of us out with friends, etc. for this). It's really very simple to gather this kind of evidence once you've been living together for a while.

My husband and I used all NEW evidence, since we were granted the PMV. Mish and her husband used mostly OLD evidence they'd used for their PMV, plus evidence they'd gotten married. Both of us were approved. You don't need to overload them with evidence for this. They're basically making sure you've gotten married and settled into your life together as a couple. :)

When it comes time for the 801, you'll provide evidence in the same four categories, but from the time your 820 was granted. The 801 is not considered a new "application," it's considered a "reassessment." You have to provide the same type of evidence, though, so it sure FEELS like a new application! The only difference is - you don't have to pay anything for the 801 part, and you don't need medicals (and if you haven't been out of Australia living in another country for more than 12 months during your 820, you won't need police checks from anywhere EXCEPT Australia).

jp1985 02-28-2015 06:11 AM

Dear MaryV, at the end there is no good or bad sign. Some other people didnt get any notification about their applications until the grant day. I wish we are informed too so we know if our applications are being looked at. Let s just hope we get this heavy weight lifted from our mind. :)

waiting_is_happiness 02-28-2015 09:38 AM

We all know that if you applied for 820/801, you will get a letter a few months before you are eligible for the 801. What if the 2 years mark is nearly reach but still you are waiting for the 820 to be granted, would they send you such expected letter?

Life is so tough when everything is on hold :(

Mish 02-28-2015 09:43 AM

If the 2 years is almost there and you are still waiting for the 820 then you won't get the letter. If it is still processing at 2 years you will go straight to PR.

Is the delay security checks?

waiting_is_happiness 02-28-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mish (Post 795714)
If the 2 years is almost there and you are still waiting for the 820 then you won't get the letter. If it is still processing at 2 years you will go straight to PR.

Is the delay security checks?

Wish that I know how they actually process the partner application... basically I am a good nice guy so I don't think I have any issue with security checks :o

CollegeGirl 02-28-2015 10:27 AM

Even without the letter, if your 820 is granted before 2 years of you applying, when you hit that 2 year mark you can go apply for the 801 yourself online. You don't need to wait for their letter. But if your 820 takes longer than 2 years to be granted, as Mish said, you'll go straight to PR!

Mish 02-28-2015 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by waiting_is_happiness (Post 795738)

Wish that I know how they actually process the partner application... basically I am a good nice guy so I don't think I have any issue with security checks :o

What country are you from? There are only a few that are held up due to security checks.

Have you contacted them to ask what the hold up is?


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