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Old 06-24-2016, 01:46 AM
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If your partner is an Australian Citizen then you can do a joint loan (mortgage) if you are on a BVA or TR. We did twice whilst on BVA.
So joint mortgages on a BVA or 820 (when I get it) can be done? I just got denied a joint loan (motorbike) cause I'm not a PR. funny enough they actually had approved him already for the loan, we were just adding my name to it.

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So joint mortgages on a BVA or 820 (when I get it) can be done? I just got denied a joint loan (motorbike) cause I'm not a PR. funny enough they actually had approved him already for the loan, we were just adding my name to it.
My Partner and I applied for a home loan with ANZ. I'm on an 820, ANZ were fine with it, but the company who ANZ underwrote the Mortgage Lenders Insurance too were not happy so we had to take my name off.
I think it can be done though, certain banks/lenders will. Maybe shop around

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My Partner and I applied for a home loan with ANZ. I'm on an 820, ANZ were fine with it, but the company who ANZ underwrote the Mortgage Lenders Insurance too were not happy so we had to take my name off.
I think it can be done though, certain banks/lenders will. Maybe shop around
This is the thing I find rather annoying sometimes. Besides the fact that I do want to have shared responsibility (incl. of having joint loans), obviously immi would like to see finance decisions being joint etc whereby things like loans or mortgages would have quite a good indicator that the relationship is pretty serious (mortgages are no laughing matter). How though are we expected to do that when we are all willing but organisations or banks or whatever pretty much deny us everything as we are not PR? Some days it feels like a catch 22

*rant for the day*

On another note, congrats on your 820 (whenever you got approved) and good luck for the 801!!

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hello everyone,
can someone please confirm if the joint loan is compulsory for visa subclass 820/801
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can someone please confirm if the joint loan is compulsory for visa subclass 820/801
thanks in advance
A joint loan is not compulsory for a visa subclass 820/801 (nor for PMV 300 or 309/100).

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Hi all,

Thanks in advance for all the great insight and help thus far. Greatly appreciated.

My partner & I will applying onshore in January 2017 for the 820. We are clear on almost all of the detail and what is needed for the initial application and to get the ABV etc. Our only outstanding query is to do with how to enter Australia. A friend entered on a Working Holiday Visa last year and successfully lodged his 820 application and secured the ABV, but it has caused problems with work due to the restrictions on employment and also lengthened the initial time he has to wait for the 820 to be processed (because he has to wait for the WHV to expire first?) He has therefore advised that we enter on a 3 mth Tourist visa instead as it means the ABV with full working rights is obtained much quicker and gets us into the 820 processing waiting period much sooner (i.e. at the end of the 3 month Tourist Visa)

Our main question (assuming entering on a Tourist visa then immediately applying for the 820 is fine to do? We believe so) How do we avoid getting slapped with a 'No Further Stay' clause on entry?

i) Should we have an outgoing flight booked within the 3 months? SO as to appear to be Tourists? We sort of will be as we are home for Xmas and to see family etc
ii) Should we be careful about carrying documentation on our person? i.e. A giveaway about our intentions.
iii) If we do get a 'No Further Stay' clause on entry, is this a 100% show stopper for an 820 application? Or is it another complication to deal with later?

We have heard that if Australian customs believe you may not be arriving solely for Tourist/Visiting intentions that they can add the 'No Further Stay' clause. We'd like to be 100% sure what we are doing is safe, or at least backed up by others with solid success and how to navigate the grey areas of these entry rules!!

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It always amazes me the incorrect information people are told. It doesn't matter what visa you apply from and how long it lasts the processing time of the 820 is determined on when you lodge the 820. We have had people on this forum on visas still in effect when their 820 is granted.

There is nothing you can do to prevent a no further stay clause. You do only see them on sunbclass 600 visas not ETA or evisitors.

Don't carry any paperwork with you as it will appear you will breach the tourist visa conditions (no work) and if found will be allowed to enter Australia.

It is always best to have a return ticket and some airports will checking in for the flight will ask for the ticket leaving the country.

The BVA has no work restrictions it has unlimited work rights. However there are employers that don't like the visa it all depends on the job you are applying for.


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It always amazes me the incorrect information people are told. It doesn't matter what visa you apply from and how long it lasts the processing time of the 820 is determined on when you lodge the 820. We have had people on this forum on visas still in effect when their 820 is granted.
Understood Mish. Apologies, I was confused and meant to be commenting that full working rights on the ABV do not kick in until the current visa expires (i.e. my friend who is stuck on his WHV conditions before he can enjoy the ABV conditions)

Thanks very much for your other thoughts. Much appreciated.

So it appears that:
- We CAN enter on a tourist visa (provided we are believed to be legitimate Tourists)
- A return flight out of Australia will help with this on entry and seems a smart idea. Totally possible for us.
- Carrying documentation is NOT advised
- There is no guaranteed way to avoid a 'No Further Stay' clause? (we are not eligible for the e600 as passport is Italian and/or Brazilian)

With the above in mind, I still have these questions:

1. Re Documentation - I don't know how to get around this? Send it in the post from Singapore on the way home? Give it to another friend to bring in at a slightly later date? Ship it from overseas and pray it isn't lost and doesn't arrive 3 months later half moth eaten?

2. Re 'No Further Stay' clause - As per my previous note, is this a 100% show stopper (i.e. very bad thing) for an 820 application? Or is it a small complication to deal with later? If it is a bad thing, how can we be sure to avoid it?

I suppose what I am asking is - Is it possible to enter the country legitimately (in the eyes of Australian customs) on a tourist visa? Is it acceptable to say that we will be enjoying a 3 month holiday visiting family and friends prior to lodging our 820 application? I'm guessing they won't accept this level of honesty though!

Thoughts?

Thanks again


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Just book your return for 3 weeks after your future arrival in Oz, and then change the date of departure once your there. As far as DIBC is concerned you're taking a short holiday.

And the documents, if you are applying online, can be scanned and saved on the cloud as pdfs, jpegs or whatever. Take some essentials with you, but obviously not a phone book of documents and IDs...


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Hi there!

This forum is amazing

We have applied for a 820 partner visa on Sept 30, 2015 online and onshore in Melbourne and we got placed in queue on Feb 18, 2016 (like many people here).

My Dutch police check expires on July 6, and our Australian Police Checks and Health Check will expire in August. Should I go ahead and request my Dutch police check again (as this takes about 3-4 weeks) and same in August, go ahead and get new Australian Police Checks and schedule a new Health Check? Or should I wait until my CO requests this specifically?

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