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Old 05-25-2014, 11:41 PM
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Hi all,

Any recent approvals?

Keep us updated always, please.

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Any insights/advice on the some 820/801 application weirdness?

Applied for the 820/801 29 August 2013 at the Melbourne office. My partner had sponsored his previous partner just over 4 years earlier, so we were asking for a waiver of the 5 year limitation on the basis of our relationship being over 3 years. Also, I'm HIV-positive and had to request a health waiver. Processing time wasn't a major concern, as I'm on a student visa already.

Here's where it gets weird: I'd done all the checks (health, police, etc) well before submitting the application. I was aware that they're good only for 12 months. I called DIBP in January 2014 to see if it was necessary to undergo further checks. They informed me they had no record of my health check at all. After a few hours on the phone with Medibank, I was able to get that sorted. DIBP apologised for the mix-up and said they'd try to to get it to a case officer.

Four months went by without a word, so I wrote to the lawyer who helped prepare my application and asked if she'd heard anything. She hadn't but told me she'd check. It turns out I was assigned a case officer on 13 March 2014, that she was "actively assessing my application," and had received advice from the Medical Officer of the Commonwealth based on my original health check.

This all seems weird to me: assigned a case officer, but not informed of it, and over two months passing since being assigned without ANY correspondence. Has this sort of thing happened to anyone else?

In any case, congrats to all those who have been recently approved! That's fantastic!
Not related to your visa, but once a few years back (while I waited for a student visa application to be processed), I waited 2 months just for an email reply from my case officer. So don't be disappointed, it's quite normal.

There is nobody to put pressure on DIBP, there is nobody to complain to. They do what they like, whenever they like and however they like it, and all you can do is sit there and wait. Try not to lose all your nerves or go bald. Immigration is a tough process


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I'll tell you about weirdness.

In 2009 I was on this forum discussing my ex partner's visa journey. Met some lovely ladies who were in a similar situation, as we do.

Crazy thing was we decided to make a complaint to the Global Feedback Unit. A few days later one of the ladies email me and forwarded the reply she got from the GFU.
It was all MY husband's details, HIS case number and HIS progress!! Nothing about her partner.
We were absolutely gobsmacked. A breach of our privacy and no one did a thing about it!

So in relation to weirdness: Immi can get real weird. It's gov. #SeeourPM.

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Looks like applying online would have been the better choice, they are all getting approved super quick! To bad it's to late tho do it that way!

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Looks like applying online would have been the better choice, they are all getting approved super quick! To bad it's to late tho do it that way!
It doesn't seem like online is faster. There have been three 820 visa grants on this forum last week and they were all paper applications. I am regretting the online application now as we had everything ready for the paper application anyway.

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It doesn't seem like online is faster. There have been three 820 visa grants on this forum last week and they were all paper applications. I am regretting the online application now as we had everything ready for the paper application anyway.
Just a speculation here:

The fiscal year for 2013-14 is coming to an end soon in approximately 1 month's time 30/6/2014. I can imagine all DIBP offices onshore/offshore are striving (overtime) to reach their targets (assigned quota) if they have not done so. Therefore, they'll probably be an apparent surge in visa grants during this time. Human nature will obviously try to take the easy way out by clearing less complicated ones to meet the targets. After which nearing to end June, probably the grants will taper off or even halt when targets are met and resume at the start of next fiscal year.

A look at the 2012-13 reported released last June will be illuminating. DIAC actually reached their targets of 190K visa grants to the dot. The 3 extra places were granted for skilled were contra-ed off 3 less places special stream. Family stream of which 820 is part of, is right on the spot in terms of grant. It shows they are quite anal to reach their targets exactly.

Migration Program Report
Executive Summary

The total migration program outcome for 2012-13 was 190 000 places, on target with its planning level of 190000. The major source countries in the migration program were India, China and the United Kingdom.
Within the overall program the breakdown by visa streams was
:
•128973 places delivered in the skilled stream
(3 places above the planning level);

60 185 places delivered in the family stream (on target with the planning level) ; and

842 places delivered in the special eligibility stream
(3 places below the planning level).

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statist...am-2012-13.pdf

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Just a speculation here:

The fiscal year for 2013-14 is coming to an end soon in approximately 1 month's time 30/6/2014. I can imagine all DIBP offices onshore/offshore are striving (overtime) to reach their targets (assigned quota) if they have not done so. Therefore, they'll probably be an apparent surge in visa grants during this time. Human nature will obviously try to take the easy way out by clearing less complicated ones to meet the targets. After which nearing to end June, probably the grants will taper off or even halt when targets are met and resume at the start of next fiscal year.

A look at the 2012-13 reported released last June will be illuminating. DIAC actually reached their targets of 190K visa grants to the dot. The 3 extra places were granted for skilled were contra-ed off 3 less places special stream. Family stream of which 820 is part of, is right on the spot in terms of grant. It shows they are quite anal to reach their targets exactly.

Migration Program Report
Executive Summary

The total migration program outcome for 2012-13 was 190 000 places, on target with its planning level of 190000. The major source countries in the migration program were India, China and the United Kingdom.
Within the overall program the breakdown by visa streams was
:
128973 places delivered in the skilled stream
(3 places above the planning level);

60 185 places delivered in the family stream (on target with the planning level) ; and

842 places delivered in the special eligibility stream
(3 places below the planning level).

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statist...am-2012-13.pdf
I read that exact PDF file today. It usually seems as though sometimes they reach their target prior to the end of the financial year and then no grants are made until the next financial year. I guess this year they are running behind and granting frantically. I saw how they granted an extra 3 visas then had to make up for it by taking some out of the other stream. They're anal with numbers. I guess that is a good thing. I hope they frantically grant our visa soon.

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How big is the queue?

Hi Liferiver - interesting post.

This quote from page 16 of the DIBP Migration program report you linked to is enlightening.

"Demand in the partner category increased by over 10 271 to 70 123 applications in 2012-13.
Around 57 870 clients remain in the pipeline at 30 June 2013, an increase of 28.8 per cent over the program year."

In brief, it means that number of partners waiting in the queue at the end of the financial year 2012-13 significantly exceeds (by over 11,000?) the total number of places planned for the following year, which is probably a bit over 46,325). This perhaps explains our long wait.

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Just a speculation here:

The fiscal year for 2013-14 is coming to an end soon in approximately 1 month's time 30/6/2014. I can imagine all DIBP offices onshore/offshore are striving (overtime) to reach their targets (assigned quota) if they have not done so. Therefore, they'll probably be an apparent surge in visa grants during this time. Human nature will obviously try to take the easy way out by clearing less complicated ones to meet the targets. After which nearing to end June, probably the grants will taper off or even halt when targets are met and resume at the start of next fiscal year.

A look at the 2012-13 reported released last June will be illuminating. DIAC actually reached their targets of 190K visa grants to the dot. The 3 extra places were granted for skilled were contra-ed off 3 less places special stream. Family stream of which 820 is part of, is right on the spot in terms of grant. It shows they are quite anal to reach their targets exactly.

Migration Program Report
Executive Summary

The total migration program outcome for 2012-13 was 190 000 places, on target with its planning level of 190000. The major source countries in the migration program were India, China and the United Kingdom.
Within the overall program the breakdown by visa streams was
:
128973 places delivered in the skilled stream
(3 places above the planning level);

60 185 places delivered in the family stream (on target with the planning level) ; and

842 places delivered in the special eligibility stream
(3 places below the planning level).

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statist...am-2012-13.pdf

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Oh yes, fantastic observation. It means there're approximately, 15 months of backlog applicants. *gasp

If we contextualise the figures further, most of the top 10 countries applicants are high risk countries, that may increase the waiting times, assuming it is out of the hands of DIBP and applicant and pending some security checks.

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Hi Liferiver - interesting post.

This quote from page 16 of the DIBP Migration program report you linked to is enlightening.

"Demand in the partner category increased by over 10 271 to 70 123 applications in 2012-13.
Around 57 870 clients remain in the pipeline at 30 June 2013, an increase of 28.8 per cent over the program year."

In brief, it means that number of partners waiting in the queue at the end of the financial year 2012-13 significantly exceeds (by over 11,000?) the total number of places planned for the following year, which is probably a bit over 46,325). This perhaps explains our long wait.

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They good thing is they're targets driven to meet their targets. This means the long waiting times may not be due to inefficient processing but rather explicit policy targets set up by senior management.

The weak link here arguably is not inefficient processing, but rather (limited) targets are met for the year and they can't grant anymore, even if a CO wants to.

Does give a bit more perspective here.

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I read that exact PDF file today. It usually seems as though sometimes they reach their target prior to the end of the financial year and then no grants are made until the next financial year. I guess this year they are running behind and granting frantically. I saw how they granted an extra 3 visas then had to make up for it by taking some out of the other stream. They're anal with numbers. I guess that is a good thing. I hope they frantically grant our visa soon.


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