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Old 05-26-2014, 05:34 AM
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My guess is that when the 2013-14 figures come out it will be even more devastating. Once they started clamping down on skilled visas, even more people started going the partner visa route. I predict there has been a huge surge in the number of partner visa applicants for the current fiscal year.

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Wow, those numbers are pretty incredible. I would be very curious as to the actual rejection : approval ratio.

Not sure if my timeline will appear in my footer, but FWIW my wife and I applied online (820 category) on the 15th of May, with her from Estonia, and we submitted all info except for the medicals. She's already on her bridging visa... looks like we have a long wait ahead!


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I would be curious to know if those that come on a pmv if when they apply for a 820 if it then comes out of the 820 cap too

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A bigger queue...

Hi College Girl, Liferiver and Amandy

Thanks for the useful discussion and the several good points made. I agree that there are likely to be many chefs and hairdressers etc. who now choose to apply via the partnership stream. It looks like the waiting list will blow out further over future months and years. In our case it looks like we may have a chance of a decision before Christmas. Fingers crossed.

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My guess is that when the 2013-14 figures come out it will be even more devastating. Once they started clamping down on skilled visas, even more people started going the partner visa route. I predict there has been a huge surge in the number of partner visa applicants for the current fiscal year.

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I would be curious to know if those that come on a pmv if when they apply for a 820 if it then comes out of the 820 cap too
The PMV is counted as one place. And subsequent application and grant by pmv holder to 820 is counted as another place.

Page 19 of attachment A shows the breakdown of figures.

So PMV to 820 visa holders are actually taking 2 places.

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The PMV is counted as one place. And subsequent application and grant by pmv holder to 820 is counted as another place.

Page 19 of attachment A shows the breakdown of figures.

So PMV to 820 visa holders are actually taking 2 places.
I guess that sounds a bit unfair that we take 2 places so technically 820 has less spots than they are saying.

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I guess that sounds a bit unfair that we take 2 places so technically 820 has less spots than they are saying.
Two spots for one person! Oh don't feel bad, this is my second partner visa sponsoring, first was a 309. Sorry all, I've double dipped.

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I guess that sounds a bit unfair that we take 2 places so technically 820 has less spots than they are saying.
Ah you're right. May not make much sense. But I may have interpret that wrongly actually.

On a closer look, there's a little footnote there that says "Net outcome as provisional visa holder that do not subsequently get permanent visa are returned to Migration Program in year of expiry."

So actually, whatever the above means, the Net outcome may have already taken into consideration the double counting.

But the number of PMVs granted is indeed quite impressive. Simplistically, every 4 granted, 1 will be a pmv. That might just be the faster route to 820 as compared to the long waiting time of applying 820 direct. I foresee the PMV number increasing soon since there seems to be a general trend of shorter waiting time via that route.

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But the number of PMVs granted is indeed quite impressive. Simplistically, every 4 granted, 1 will be a pmv. That might just be the faster route to 820 as compared to the long waiting time of applying 820 direct. I foresee the PMV number increasing soon since there seems to be a general trend of shorter waiting time via that route.
Yes and no. Less time than 820 (in most cases) but you are apart not together onshore. I would much rather have had my partner onshore than offshore and been apart. He was from a high risk country so he couldn't get a tourist visa here.


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Just a speculation here:

The fiscal year for 2013-14 is coming to an end soon in approximately 1 month's time 30/6/2014. I can imagine all DIBP offices onshore/offshore are striving (overtime) to reach their targets (assigned quota) if they have not done so. Therefore, they'll probably be an apparent surge in visa grants during this time. Human nature will obviously try to take the easy way out by clearing less complicated ones to meet the targets. After which nearing to end June, probably the grants will taper off or even halt when targets are met and resume at the start of next fiscal year.

A look at the 2012-13 reported released last June will be illuminating. DIAC actually reached their targets of 190K visa grants to the dot. The 3 extra places were granted for skilled were contra-ed off 3 less places special stream. Family stream of which 820 is part of, is right on the spot in terms of grant. It shows they are quite anal to reach their targets exactly.

Migration Program Report
Executive Summary

The total migration program outcome for 2012-13 was 190 000 places, on target with its planning level of 190000. The major source countries in the migration program were India, China and the United Kingdom.
Within the overall program the breakdown by visa streams was
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128973 places delivered in the skilled stream
(3 places above the planning level);

60 185 places delivered in the family stream (on target with the planning level) ; and

842 places delivered in the special eligibility stream
(3 places below the planning level).

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statist...am-2012-13.pdf
I was thinking about it the other day. I remember reading last year about many people who were told by their co that their visas would be granted, but they had to wait for the next financial year as the department had already reached the number of grants. I haven't seen it happening this year.

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