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Old 03-26-2017, 11:27 PM
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Hi Y'all -

How quickly should I expect the Working Bridge Visa A to be extended after we launch our On-Shore Partner Visa?

Our Defacto started October 20th last year (living together since) and we're looking at applying just after that 1 year mark. We're going on holiday overseas for a few months soon and will come back starting the 90 day ETA Tourist visa time clock again on around August 1st, which means November 1st appx 90 days will be up. If we launch our partner visa on October 21st (1 year & 1 day after our de facto started) and the 90 days is up November 1st 10 days later, will that not be enough time? I was hoping there was an immediate work bridge visa granted, but apparently somebody has review our application first to approve it as a valid application? How long does that take? Thanks :-)


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Your bridging visa should be granted straight away. If you are paying via BPAY it might take a few days (you would pay via BPAY to avoid card charges which adds almost another $100 to the cost).

So for example, we did the application and the BPAY on Saturday 16th January 2016. I got my notification of my bridging visa grant on Tuesday 19th January 2016 and my official date of application is 19th January.

Do you just get your ETA when you arrive onshore or do you have to pre-apply for it? Just don't make it obvious that the reason you want an ETA is in order to lodge the 820.

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Your bridging visa should be granted straight away. If you are paying via BPAY it might take a few days (you would pay via BPAY to avoid card charges which adds almost another $100 to the cost).

So for example, we did the application and the BPAY on Saturday 16th January 2016. I got my notification of my bridging visa grant on Tuesday 19th January 2016 and my official date of application is 19th January.

Do you just get your ETA when you arrive onshore or do you have to pre-apply for it? Just don't make it obvious that the reason you want an ETA is in order to lodge the 820.
Hi! Thanks for your quick and helpful reply :-) We will probably just use our debit card and eat that CC cost given the close timing we have of when we're lodging (defacto start date Oct 20th, lodging partner app 1 year later on Oct 21, and then the tourist visa will be up on Nov 1). Essentially you're saying I should get the Work Bridge Visa A right away after lodging the application online - thanks :-)

An immigration phone-taker thru the official Aussie Immigration hotline told me I should apply a few weeks before my tourist visa was up as somebody in immigration will have to verify my application is legit. HOWEVER, I actually just realized they probably thought I was mailing the partner application in, but we're going to do it all online .... which should be immediate like you're essentially saying.

As for the ETA question - I've had a 12 month multiple entry visa the last few years (applying for a new one each year with in-between me having a 1 year working holiday visa too) .... I'm on the ETA right now (have been the last several months with 2 trips out of the country for holidays in-between), will leave soon for us to holiday in Europe, then we'll come back into Australia to spend more time, she'll work again, and we'll submit our partner visa (but under the same visa I'm on now). So no .... I never applied for an ETA just to launch a partner visa.

Thanks :-)

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Old 03-27-2017, 12:05 AM
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Yeah should be pretty immediate if you're doing it by card.

People on the phone can be pretty useless but if you can register your relationship you might actually be eligible to apply before then anyway. I don't know how much you've looked into your options? The requirements say that you need to have been de facto for a year rather than lived together.

Which state are you in?

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Yeah should be pretty immediate if you're doing it by card.

People on the phone can be pretty useless but if you can register your relationship you might actually be eligible to apply before then anyway. I don't know how much you've looked into your options? The requirements say that you need to have been de facto for a year rather than lived together.

Which state are you in?
I'm confused... I thought 'de facto' means you live together?

"For migration purposes, a person is in a de facto relationship with another person if they:

- are not married to each other
- have a mutual commitment to a shared life to the exclusion of all others
- are in a genuine and continuing relationship
- live together or do not live separately and apart on a permanent basis
- are not related by family. "

I find the 'or do not live separately and apart on a permanent basis' a bit confusing...

Edit: Ahhh I get it now
"Provided the separation is temporary and the couple had, at some point since commencement of the relationship lived together, their relationship might still satisfy the requirements of a de facto relationship.
For this reason, the one year relationship criterion does not require the couple to have physically lived together for the entire 12 months, but rather to have been in a de facto relationship for that period"

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Yeah I thought you had to live together for a full year too but a few people have said on here recently that's not actually the case. Not sure how you prove that but there you go.

But either way, if they can register their relationship, the 12 months is waivered anyway.


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Old 03-27-2017, 01:48 AM
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Hi! Thanks for your quick and helpful reply :-) We will probably just use our debit card and eat that CC cost given the close timing we have of when we're lodging (defacto start date Oct 20th, lodging partner app 1 year later on Oct 21, and then the tourist visa will be up on Nov 1). Essentially you're saying I should get the Work Bridge Visa A right away after lodging the application online - thanks :-)

An immigration phone-taker thru the official Aussie Immigration hotline told me I should apply a few weeks before my tourist visa was up as somebody in immigration will have to verify my application is legit. HOWEVER, I actually just realized they probably thought I was mailing the partner application in, but we're going to do it all online .... which should be immediate like you're essentially saying.

As for the ETA question - I've had a 12 month multiple entry visa the last few years (applying for a new one each year with in-between me having a 1 year working holiday visa too) .... I'm on the ETA right now (have been the last several months with 2 trips out of the country for holidays in-between), will leave soon for us to holiday in Europe, then we'll come back into Australia to spend more time, she'll work again, and we'll submit our partner visa (but under the same visa I'm on now). So no .... I never applied for an ETA just to launch a partner visa.

Thanks :-)

Brad

I paid via debit card and it was instant, as soon as I hit submit, I also got the bridging Visa A


Also when I was here on the ETA I left once and came back after the 3 months and was told to apply for a tourist Visa as next time I may not be allowed back in because they would question it. I applied for the tourist Visa for a year and was granted it the next day, as I could show evidence of support.

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Thanks for your insight and questions to help me further :-) We'll be lodging our online application from Queensland.

Our situation is a little goofy until October 20th, 2016, so we call Oct 20 our de facto date because it's the date we moved in. That's the date I flew back into Australia to move-in with her and we've lived together every day since. We know we still have another 6 months until we can apply for the partner visa when Oct 20, 2017 comes around, but we're fully committed to each other, had been good friends for a year even before our de facto date despite distance between us before we moved-in with each other in October 2016, etc. We've been told the partner visa is quite complex and we need to start saving all our receipts, documents, pictures, etc. We've known for well before our relationship and de facto date we'd be 100% committed when we got together - we talked about it heaps before the de facto date. We had expressed our feelings for each other numerous times before that de facto date, but we just hadn't dated really and rather were just very good friends from a distance talking every day, etc. Every day essentially since Oct 20th we've been living together and fully in-love, so that's our de facto date.

We met in December 2015 while both holiday'ing in Melbourne, but never really dated because we lived in separate states and she had an on/off relationship. We talked as good friends almost every day via text, snapchat, Facebook messenger, and/or Skype, even having expressed feelings for each other and discussed getting-together. In August 2016 I left Australia just as she was officially breaking up with her boyfriend for good (whom of which she barely saw the last year before her break-up). I went to the Olympics as I planned for quite awhile and then did some world travels by myself, but all the meanwhile her/I skyped every day during my travels and after she broke up with him. Over the couple months of my travels in Aug/Sept we made the decision to turn our friendship into a relationship while I was still overseas, we agreed I'd fly back to Australia to move-in with her (vs me flying to another country and be single), and we planned numerous holidays in addition to living together every day starting Oct 20th. We were fully committed and ready from the day I flew back into Australia (Oct 20), which as I said was the day we moved in together too.

We've taken numerous holidays together since October 20th, including to Thailand for her 30th birthday/Valentine's Day week, staying with her family for a month in another AUS state for Christmas, etc. Soon we're we're going to travel overseas more for a few months to meet her Dad's family in Europe, meet my family in the USA, etc. We'll then come back to Australia in early August so she can start working again, we'll lodge the partner visa in late October (1 year & 1 day after our de facto), and then yeah the 90 days will be up in early November so the work bridge visa will kick-in for me as the ETA Tourist Visa will expire like 10 days after we lodge the partner visa online (again, the same ETA visa I will have used this 12 month period on/off and it's the visa I came back in on after I was on a working holiday visa before I left AUS).

I think that it's quite fair calling the start of our De Facto October 20th (day I flew back in and we've lived together every day since the last 5 months and we won't be apart before the partner visa lodging either).

We have a joint bank account now and we're looking at registering our relationship. We don't have a rental agreement with my name on it despite me having lived with her the last 5 months, but surely we share financial expenses (meals, groceries, etc). There hasn't been much with both our names on it at this point except airline tickets. My bank and credit statements show transactions throughout the last 5 months in the town we're living together in. We've taken numerous shared expense holidays and we'll have written statements from neighbors/friends/family members/ourselves, etc proving we'd been living together in the exclusive relationship since October 20th. We've went to social events like family gatherings, celebrations, a wedding, AirBnB stays, concerts, etc together too where our names are both on invites. We also of course would include numerous screenshots of social media posts, text messages, etc proving our relationship throughout the year+. We're both big into social media and so there's a lot of paper trail of pictures of us, around family/social gatherings, etc. and of course with social media posts, there are time stamps on them too.

I'm thinking we're going to be okay. Although we moved in on October 20th, we had been going back & forth whether we live in AUS, in the US, or in Europe the next few years. We found out last week (5+ months into our de facto) how complex the AUS partner visa is, so we're now trying to look into it, learn what all it entails, and figure out what we need to be doing in terms of paper trail, etc. We know we're legit and have heaps of evidence (will have so much more by the time the app lodges like our big Euro/US trip), but we need to start organising better for immigration so our application is thorough and will leave no question (hopefully).

Thanks for your insight / tips :-)


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You mention that you're not on the lease, which is fine but do the agency know you're living there at least? If there's any correspondence to that effect, you can use that.

Are you on any of the utility bills? If not, that's something else you can try and do. At the very least, it's probably a good idea to pay these out of a joint account.

Does she have a credit card? Could you be an additional cardholder?

It's also a good idea to have each other as your super beneficiaries (I'm assuming you don't have super right now given what visa you're on but she should). And emergency contacts is another one.

These are all things that will help. You might be doing some of these things already but just in case you're not...

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Thanks Arabella! No, we're not really doing any of those things. There really hasn't been anything with both our names on it besides airline tickets, hotel tickets, etc. We got a joint bank account last week 5 months into the relationship.

We're moving out in a few weeks too after I've been here 5 months. Our address will then be her parent's QLD house while we travel for a few months overseas meeting my family, her Dad's family, etc. We will then come back to AUS and live with them for a couple months while we look for jobs in Australia, as well as lodge our partner visa.

I'm glad we're looking into what to do now at least and not right before the application lodgement. I moved back to AUS like I said to be with her, live with her, have this romance. All that checks out in our book (including thru photos, written statements, social media, etc), but financially speaking we need to do a much better job it seems.

Thank you :-)


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