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Skybluebrewer 11-24-2017 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cailenegrace (Post 1740650)
Hi there!

I am fresh to the waiting game. Literally just submitted my application moments ago. It says on the Immi Website 20-25 month estimated process time. Woof. I'm thinking that they buff this time frame quite a bit.... especially after reading some of your previous posts.

Anyone have any tips on how to not stress out? I have all my evidence ready to go. I am just waiting for my application to turn from "Submitted" to "Received." I saw on the information page that people are having issues uploading evidence and the recommendation was to wait for this change in status.
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From the USA
820/801 Submitted Nov 24, 2017

You should try to upload your evidence right away. The issues people were having were around the same time there was maintenance being done to the immi portal. Don't worry about what the status shows as it appears to change at different stages for everyone.

It's not a 20-25 month wait. 75% processed in 20 months means 75% of applicants are estimated to be processed in 20 months. Applicants processed in one month, two months, ten months, and so on all fall into this category. Only around 15% estimated are processed between 20-25 months. Another 10% takes longer.

TheFluff 11-24-2017 05:26 PM

Ah the waiting game.

It took awhile from when it was listing as submitted for the "estimated processing time" to come up on the screen.

I figured 2 years anyway.
God uploading is such a bitch, condense to PDF, realise you didn't make the photos small enough, resize and condense again.

I think I've probably missed uploading something, but they'll let us know. A friend who did it said their assigned case manager gave them plenty of opportunities to fix up things they'd miss in adding in.

Skybluebrewer 11-24-2017 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFluff (Post 1741273)
Ah the waiting game.

It took awhile from when it was listing as submitted for the "estimated processing time" to come up on the screen.

I figured 2 years anyway.
God uploading is such a bitch, condense to PDF, realise you didn't make the photos small enough, resize and condense again.

I think I've probably missed uploading something, but they'll let us know. A friend who did it said their assigned case manager gave them plenty of opportunities to fix up things they'd miss in adding in.

Yeah.... they've made changes and they won't be helping people who missed things. They probably realized how people supplying unfinished apps can draw out processing times so much.

If you applied before 18 Nov 2017, they will only contact you once for missing documents. After 18 Nov? Not a chance. A decision will be made based on what you supplied.

In my opinion, the latter is how it should be.

Skybluebrewer 11-24-2017 08:41 PM

And we've seen an 820 grant in 7 months within this month. Not so unlikely to be in that 75% category.

TheFluff 11-24-2017 08:58 PM

Wow, 7 months.

I do agree about the what you submit is what they process with. Just simple things like the cost and annoyance of getting police checks and medicals which expire within 12months.

I'm pretty confident about the stuff we've uploaded. We submitted in September so before the november changes came into affect, but still prefer to cover the bases for that one so as not to risk rejection and loosing like $8k+ in total when you include registration, checks etc.

Thanks for the headsup about the missing doc stuff :-D

HRose313 11-24-2017 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFluff (Post 1741481)
Wow, 7 months.

I do agree about the what you submit is what they process with. Just simple things like the cost and annoyance of getting police checks and medicals which expire within 12months.

I'm pretty confident about the stuff we've uploaded. We submitted in September so before the november changes came into affect, but still prefer to cover the bases for that one so as not to risk rejection and loosing like $8k+ in total when you include registration, checks etc.

Thanks for the headsup about the missing doc stuff :-D


There is a thread discussing the changes, and from what I can tell, it is still up in the air about whether some of the changes SkyBlueBrewer mentioned are in full effect now:

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Originally Posted by barker (Post 1734258)
The MIA has received confirmation from the Department of changes to Partner (SC 309/100 & 820/801) and Prospective Marriage (SC 300) visa application arrangements mooted at the MIA National Conference.


The following policy will be applied to applications lodged before and after 18 November 2017 and not finally decided:

• Undocumented or poorly documented applications lodged by RMAs, eg applicatons that only meet the basic Schedule 1 requirements for lodging a valid application, may be refused without notice and without requests for further information.

• Where natural justice letters have been sent to RMAs, no follow up or subsequent reminders will be sent. The Department will decide the application on the information before it, unless an extension of time has been requested and granted.

For applications lodged prior to 18 November 2017, the Department will provide only ONE opportunity to submit additional information and/or documents or respond to a natural justice letter.

These measures have been implemented by the Department because of the high level of incomplete and undocumented applications lodged and are aimed at freeing Departmental resources to address the second stage processing backlog.

The Department has also indicated that it will prioritise well documented and low risk applications in 2017 - 2018. AAT applications will also be remitted to one central office to speed up processing.

According to a user who works for the DIBP, the only change to the partner visas to be fully enacted is that it's mandatory for applicants to apply online only. Nonetheless, I would upload everything you have (except for the police and medical checks) as soon as possible as we don't know when these changes will come into effect. Personally, I think these aforementioned changes concern those from high-risk countries who only submit their application, IDs, and other required information (ie. no supporting financial or social evidence). If you've submitted solid supporting evidence that you and your partner are together you should be fine :).

I'm not a big fan of these changes as anyone who doesn't want to dish out extra money for a migration agent or doesn't think to visit these forums would be in the dark about changes such as these. I was contacted by immigration once after receiving my generic e-mail. Once I received the generic email (around 9 months after applying), I got all my police checks and medical done. Six months after that, I got an e-mail requesting my partner fill out the paper form for the 40SP (which is odd since I applied online). I got my 820 about two weeks after that. So, the only time I was ever personally contacted by a CO was to upload a document we already provided, but there was quite a bit I continually uploaded to immi on my own, and if these items weren't taken into consideration with the items I uploaded from the start, I would've been screwed. Best of luck to you!

davii 11-26-2017 10:52 AM

My partner and I submitted our 820 application online on the 19th of Oct 2017 and we're still waiting, hoping we submitted everything we need. Fingers crossed we hear something soon.

HRose313 11-26-2017 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by davii (Post 1742561)
My partner and I submitted our 820 application online on the 19th of Oct 2017 and we're still waiting, hoping we submitted everything we need. Fingers crossed we hear something soon.

Best of luck, Davii...but in terms of hearing from immigration, you may be waiting a while. I'm not sure how these new changes will speed up the process, but many members on hear don't hear from immigration for MONTHS after submitting their application if at all. Just sit back, and enjoy the wait :)

davii 11-27-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HRose313 (Post 1742817)
Best of luck, Davii...but in terms of hearing from immigration, you may be waiting a while. I'm not sure how these new changes will speed up the process, but many members on hear don't hear from immigration for MONTHS after submitting their application if at all. Just sit back, and enjoy the wait :)

Thanks Rose! We came from PMV as well, not sure if this makes any difference too.

So once we receive the 820 grant we wait another 2 years for them to re-assess us for 801?

Thanks!

Mish 11-27-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by davii (Post 1743225)
Thanks Rose! We came from PMV as well, not sure if this makes any difference too.

So once we receive the 820 grant we wait another 2 years for them to re-assess us for 801?

Thanks!

I think from memory al_ghazal whose husband arrived on a PMV is still waiting on his 820. I think they have been waiting since May but not 100% sure.

Once you get the 820 you are eligible for the 801 2 years after the application date of the 820. All it means you are eligible then but the granting of the 801 can be 12+ months after eligibility date. In 2 years time you might be looking at 18 months - at the moment 801 grants are around 14 to 16 months after eligibility date.

You will need to provide evidence since the grant of the 820 for the 801.


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