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Skybluebrewer 04-10-2018 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ravikiran.7070 (Post 1871930)
Well agree to an extent but however most of them ask what Visa have you applied for. If the bridging visa is based on the partner visa, then most of them are ok with it atleast from our experience so far.

Most of them as far as I am aware do a Vevo Check to check the work rights. Well if they don't do a Vevo check and purely rely on what DIBP states on their website like you mentioned above, then we have an issue.

But as you said if the Bridging visa can be explained on the 'full' work rights thingy it should hold good and will put any confusion to bed.

I'm just saying a BVA may make an employer less inclined to hire someone. 1) Because not all BVAs have full work rights and yes of course they'd do a VEVO check but that doesn't mean they may be turned off on an app from the start, and 2) It can be more difficult because the BVA is only good until a decision is made on the next visa so to an employer that could mean that the decision could come at anytime. There's no guarantee the decision will be a grant so is this person going to be here for a week? A month, A year? Just something else they may be thinking about. Hence why even though a BVA comes with full work rights, some employers would rather not hire someone on such a visa. Not saying it's impossible to get a job but I know people who have been turned away and told to come back after the decision was made on the visa they were waiting for.

Saozita 04-10-2018 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybluebrewer (Post 1871954)
I'm just saying a BVA may make an employer less inclined to hire someone. 1) Because not all BVAs have full work rights and yes of course they'd do a VEVO check but that doesn't mean they may be turned off on an app from the start, and 2) It can be more difficult because the BVA is only good until a decision is made on the next visa so to an employer that could mean that the decision could come at anytime. There's no guarantee the decision will be a grant so is this person going to be here for a week? A month, A year? Just something else they may be thinking about. Hence why even though a BVA comes with full work rights, some employers would rather not hire someone on such a visa. Not saying it's impossible to get a job but I know people who have been turned away and told to come back after the decision was made on the visa they were waiting for.

Skybluebrewer,

Thank you for your post. I agree with you, hence the questions I asked on this post. My strategy so far has been to apply for contract/fixed term posts as that might present itself as a less risky option for an employee. Your advice on printing the visa grant is good, I have done that and brought it to the bank and that is how I got my visa bank cards.

P.S. You seem to know an awful lot about Visas - are you an agent?

Saozita 04-10-2018 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ravikiran.7070 (Post 1871898)
Bridging Visa mostly A and B give you full work rights. Being on a bridging visa after applying for a partner visa helps (helped in our case). My wife got her BVB in December 2017 and after coming back from the new year vacation she started looking for work. Recruiters were aware of the BVB. However she had full work rights! It did put some people off but majority (80%) of them were ok with the full work rights considering it was a BVB.

She now has landed herself a job as an IT Business Analyst full time and a permanent position. Good pay to start off with. Was more stressful for me than her when she was not finding a job. Feels like I am out on Bail now :D:D:D

End of the day 'In My View' it is how you position yourself in the market and if your resume really stands out, there is no reason why you won't have a full time permanent position. The 'You can't find a job in a Bridging visa' is purely a myth. I've had few of my friends on a Bridging visa getting a full time job too.

Hope that helps.

Regards
RK

Ravikan, this is very helpful and gives me a boost of confidence, thank you for taking the time.

Saozita 04-10-2018 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by StellaT (Post 1871538)
For the home loan, please keep in mind that I wasn't too sure whether my banking history with CBA helped with my home loan. I have been banking with CBA and have had continuously income and tax record since I was student. All other banks I tried, no retail staff would consider to put through my case to their credit centres. The CBA banker I spoke to was the only one who would give it a go even though we did not hold high hope.

For career, I am on a permanent full time position in corporate environment. No, I didn't not disclose any information related to my visa on my CV nor during the interview. The only time I was asked questions related to my visa was in a meeting with a recruiter during that job hunting period. The recruiter asked few questions to make sure I have work right.

Stella,
It is very re-assuring to know that others in my position have overcome initial difficulties and are now settled with jobs and mortgages. I understand your caveats regarding the bank, I am in a similar position with NAB and so will (try to) leverage my profile to get the outcome I need.

I wish you all the best for your visa and hoping it comes ASAP Pronto! Thank you for your help.

Saozita 04-10-2018 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinkleyStar (Post 1871426)
Thank you!! I think Im checking too often and I was really hopeful after being requested the police checks! I hope they process the onshore ones as speedy! How are you getting on with your process?

Haha, I know the feeling - my lawyer is based in London and so I keep looking at my phone during night time in case she sends me an email with good news!
Were you asked for your police checks? Or for your sponsor's?

Well, I've applied for mine in August last year. Three months after that we were requested to submit sponsor checks - sadly one of the checks was with the FBI, which was (at the time) taking 4 months to complete theirs. I think that slowed things down and put me back on the pile. I haven't heard anything since but have now completed and submitted my police checks and my medical.

Good luck!

P.S. Getting the medical organised (in either Sydney or Melbourne) isn't an easy task... you need to be quick on the phone or online and be pretty flexible with dates and appointment times. Not an easy fit when you have a baby or kid to look after!

TwinkleyStar 04-10-2018 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Saozita (Post 1872226)
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Originally Posted by TwinkleyStar (Post 1871426)
Thank you!! I think I’m checking too often and I was really hopeful after being requested the police checks! I hope they process the onshore ones as speedy! How are you getting on with your process?

Haha, I know the feeling - my lawyer is based in London and so I keep looking at my phone during night time in case she sends me an email with good news!
Were you asked for your police checks? Or for your sponsor's?

Well, I've applied for mine in August last year. Three months after that we were requested to submit sponsor checks - sadly one of the checks was with the FBI, which was (at the time) taking 4 months to complete theirs. I think that slowed things down and put me back on the pile. I haven't heard anything since but have now completed and submitted my police checks and my medical.

Good luck!

P.S. Getting the medical organised (in either Sydney or Melbourne) isn't an easy task... you need to be quick on the phone or online and be pretty flexible with dates and appointment times. Not an easy fit when you have a baby or kid to look after!


Same then realising it’s too late to hear anything!

It was both police checks for myself uk and Australia and Australia for my partner. I had already completed the medical (before being requested as didn’t realise I should wait!)

That’s a long wait from submitting the checks for you. I was worried that my uk police check wasn’t going to be within the 28 days so emailed them to say it was complete but in the post but it came in time so I informed them then and clicked the everything submitted button. The wait is a killer esp with a 7 month old baby hoping it’s back in time to alter my work hours (currently on a 457)

Mirand 04-11-2018 06:42 AM

Wanted to share with you! Have been granted 820 today!
Applied onshore 20 February 2017
December 2017 sponsor ‘s AFP was requested
7 thMarch Requested more info -just AFP for myself as I forgot to add it (all foreign police checks were uploaded upfront and medicals upfront)
19 th March AFP submitted
11th April 2018 visa granted
No phone calls or other documents asked for. No form 80. Roughly 13 th months wait considering all the Easter breaks. Good luck to all of you ! Thank you to all of you who have replied to my queries in this forum. This forum helped me a lot.

Now to double check I have to wait until I reach 2 Years from my date of application to submit more evidence for 801 or I go on my immiaccount and apply separately for my 801 visa? Any advise appreciated!
Thank you 🤗

Skybluebrewer 04-11-2018 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirand (Post 1873202)
Wanted to share with you! Have been granted 820 today!
Applied onshore 20 February 2017
December 2017 sponsor s AFP was requested
7 thMarch Requested more info -just AFP for myself as I forgot to add it (all foreign police checks were uploaded upfront and medicals upfront)
19 th March AFP submitted
11th April 2018 visa granted
No phone calls or other documents asked for. No form 80. Roughly 13 th months wait considering all the Easter breaks. Good luck to all of you ! Thank you to all of you who have replied to my queries in this forum. This forum helped me a lot.

Now to double check I have to wait until I reach 2 Years from my date of application to submit more evidence for 801 or I go on my immiaccount and apply separately for my 801 visa? Any advise appreciated!
Thank you 🤗

Yes, two years from date of application so Feb 2019 for you. Technically you've already applied for the 801 (hence why it's called an 820/801 app and not an 820 app). Eligibility for the 801 is two years after the initial application date.

The immigration website explains what to do when the time comes. Scroll down to Step 5 and there's a link you can click for more information on required documentation.

StellaT 04-11-2018 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saozita (Post 1872210)
Stella,
It is very re-assuring to know that others in my position have overcome initial difficulties and are now settled with jobs and mortgages. I understand your caveats regarding the bank, I am in a similar position with NAB and so will (try to) leverage my profile to get the outcome I need.

I wish you all the best for your visa and hoping it comes ASAP Pronto! Thank you for your help.

Thank you Saozita. All the best with your home and job.

After almost two years' wait, I am sort of used to this waiting feeling LOL. lt looks like I am the "most senior" bridging visa holder in this thread (2yrs).

If anyone in the thread has stories of lodging complaints and would like to share, I will be very grateful. The customer service person I spoke to when I rang up Immi department advised me to lodge a complaint when 2 years' anniversary comes.

Skybluebrewer 04-11-2018 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StellaT (Post 1873658)
Thank you Saozita. All the best with your home and job.

After almost two years' wait, I am sort of used to this waiting feeling LOL. lt looks like I am the "most senior" bridging visa holder in this thread (2yrs).

If anyone in the thread has stories of lodging complaints and would like to share, I will be very grateful. The customer service person I spoke to when I rang up Immi department advised me to lodge a complaint when 2 years' anniversary comes.

If you want to see the positive side of it, if you wait until after 2 years to complain, then you'll also be eligible for the 801 so very likely that when they finally look at granting your 820, they'll grant the 801 as well meaning no more waiting for you and you'd actually get through the whole process (application to PR) faster than everyone else (since the wait time for PR after eligibility is around 1-2 years, making it a 3-4 year process from application to PR for most people).

At least that's how I'm hoping it works out for you! I have seen it happen before on this forum so it's a possibility.


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