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JandE 05-13-2019 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cookbarry (Post 1950485)
One would expect doing the PMV onshore would have more cance of success as a lady could be checking out OZ as a visitor and liked it and then doing the onshore visa after that

A PMV is an offshore visa only.

cookbarry 05-13-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JandE (Post 1950489)
A PMV is an offshore visa only.

thanks and I forgot that - makes sense i guess. with the new partner sponsorship rule coming soon, I guess this will put an end to visitor/onshore partner visa method .

Aussie83 05-13-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cookbarry (Post 1950493)
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Originally Posted by JandE (Post 1950489)
A PMV is an offshore visa only.

thanks and I forgot that - makes sense i guess. with the new partner sponsorship rule coming soon, I guess this will put an end to visitor/onshore partner visa method .

Why? Likely it will still be an option just people will have to be more organised and apply for it first while offshore.

rickydownunder 05-14-2019 11:47 AM

My wife and stepson got their 820 visa yesterday. 6 Month wait from application.
Thai's

Email sent to CO asking about consideration for 801 as we meet the requirements of the length of our relationship.
I Hope they consider it.

cookbarry 05-14-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie83 (Post 1950509)
Why? Likely it will still be an option just people will have to be more organised and apply for it first while offshore.

not sure what you mean . An onshore partner visa can not be applied to while still offshore . The problem is that , after a visitor visa is obtained( with no NFS condition ),
the partner of the aussie citizen arrives in OZ and then decides after a short period to apply for an ONSHORE partner visa . But the partner can not apply undid after her aussie partner has been assessed as a suitable sponsor and presented police certificate or certificates . That assessment procedure might take months which would mean the onshore partner visa application could not be made as the 3 month visitor visa would have expired and the foreign would be in home country . If able to
get a longer term visitor visa which ios not easy, it could work out well. This new
law on partner sponsorship and problems it might cause have been raised on another thread on this wonderful site . Sorry for any typing errors as no time to check !

Skybluebrewer 05-14-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cookbarry (Post 1950615)
not sure what you mean . An onshore partner visa can not be applied to while still offshore . The problem is that , after a visitor visa is obtained( with no NFS condition ),
the partner of the aussie citizen arrives in OZ and then decides after a short period to apply for an ONSHORE partner visa . But the partner can not apply undid after her aussie partner has been assessed as a suitable sponsor and presented police certificate or certificates . That assessment procedure might take months which would mean the onshore partner visa application could not be made as the 3 month visitor visa would have expired and the foreign would be in home country . If able to
get a longer term visitor visa which ios not easy, it could work out well. This new
law on partner sponsorship and problems it might cause have been raised on another thread on this wonderful site . Sorry for any typing errors as no time to check !

I think what's Aussie83 is saying is that the sponsor may be able to apply for sponsorship long before the applicant arrives in Australia to apply onshore, so that by that point, the sponsor has already been approved and there is no worry on a current visa running out and the applicant can make the application once they're onshore.

So it stops those last minute applications just to stay onshore because a visa is running out.

cookbarry 05-14-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybluebrewer (Post 1950619)
I think what's Aussie83 is saying is that the sponsor may be able to apply for sponsorship long before the applicant arrives in Australia to apply onshore, so that by that point, the sponsor has already been approved and there is no worry on a current visa running out and the applicant can make the application once they're onshore.

So it stops those last minute applications just to stay onshore because a visa is running out.

thanks for comments . As I understand it, what you are suggesting would be impossible with respect whereas aussie's plan would be very difficult to implement . Will expand later as must dash now . have a nice day

cookbarry 05-14-2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybluebrewer (Post 1950619)
I think what's Aussie83 is saying is that the sponsor may be able to apply for sponsorship long before the applicant arrives in Australia to apply onshore, so that by that point, the sponsor has already been approved and there is no worry on a current visa running out and the applicant can make the application once they're onshore.

So it stops those last minute applications just to stay onshore because a visa is running out.

to expand on what I said earlier . If sponsor applies for sponsorship offshore , it becomes an integral part of the partner visa application which also would have to be done offshore. Even if that is incorrect , the foreign partner would not get a visitor visa as it would not be a genuine visit only as it would come to light that sponsor application done offshore . Interesting to see if anyone has a different opinion.

Skybluebrewer 05-14-2019 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cookbarry (Post 1950633)
to expand on what I said earlier . If sponsor applies for sponsorship offshore , it becomes an integral part of the partner visa application which also would have to be done offshore. Even if that is incorrect , the foreign partner would not get a visitor visa as it would not be a genuine visit only as it would come to light that sponsor application done offshore . Interesting to see if anyone has a different opinion.

Interesting point if the sponsor is asked for the applicant's information then yes, that could potentially cause issues with those that attempt to enter on temporary visas with intention to stay. It would also be interesting to see if it matters whether the sponsor is onshore or offshore in regards to whether the application then needs to be onshore or offshore.

I wonder how much of a ripple effect this change will have on other visas as well. Time will tell!

cookbarry 05-14-2019 07:39 PM

It is 5 years since I completed a form 40SP for my ex wife in connection with a PMV and I think I had to show her details as well as my own or it would make no sense .
Surely the sponsor would need to be in OZ if applicant doing onshore visa as sponsor has to provide accomodation and they have to show they are living together . In a few months we will know about this new rule and no doubt will be more new rules as they try to discourage family immigration as the UK does under the
anti family TM


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