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Old 01-28-2021, 08:25 AM
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My wife and I applied submitted her application in June 2019. We used a RMA.
Have just been requested to supply medical and police checks so first contact from the Department in about 18months.

Can I assume our application is coming to a decision if medical and police checks have been requested?

Also at time of application we had already been married for 2yrs 11months and 24days. What are the chances we might get granted both the 820 and 801 at the same time?

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Sorry I don't have the answer to your question but I wanted to ask you if you don't mind. Did your RMA make you and your partner fill out a statutory declaration and uploaded it as evidence?


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Sorry I don't have the answer to your question but I wanted to ask you if you don't mind. Did your RMA make you and your partner fill out a statutory declaration and uploaded it as evidence?
Yes they requested one from each of us written in our own words. Our statutory declarations covered our entire relationship timeline with all significant events dated from how we first met right up until we lodged our application. We also both covered the 4 key areas (pillars) of the relationship in detail in both our statutory declarations.

Mine came in at 24 pages, my wifes at 14 pages from memory.

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My wife and I applied submitted her application in June 2019. We used a RMA.
Have just been requested to supply medical and police checks so first contact from the Department in about 18months.

Can I assume our application is coming to a decision if medical and police checks have been requested?

Also at time of application we had already been married for 2yrs 11months and 24days. What are the chances we might get granted both the 820 and 801 at the same time?

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I reckon considering it has been 18 months since lodgement, you may well assume the case will become decision ready once all the requested information are submitted and no other missing evidence. However, it may still take from a day up to a few months before the case gets finalized based on my personal observations.

Regarding whether you will get a double grant, I guess no one will be able to predict that other than your CO. But 3 years of de facto relationship (with sufficient supporting evidence dated 3 years back in addition to the marriage certificate) or having child(ren) between the two of you, will greatly increase that chance for sure. Have you been uploading new evidence once a couple of months since the lodgement? That should have shown your CO that your relationship has been continuing in the past 18 months and might suggest you should be granted the 801 together with the 820.


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Thank you for the detailed answer and I think it's a good way to proactive and tilt the odds in your favor as it wouldn't hurt to ass more evidence showing to the officer that you are still in a relationship especially like you when sometimes processing takes up to 24 months. A lot of things can happen in 2 years!

You mentioned the 4 pillars of the de facto relationship. Can I ask you which are they?
Yes, continue uploading new evidence is very much recommended.
Please see below for the 4 pillars defined by the DHA, you may also find them in the visa detail page (step-by-step guide).

Finances
Show us how you and your partner share financial matters. You could give us:

joint mortgage or lease documents
joint loan documents for major assets like homes, cars or major appliances
joint bank account statements
household bills in both names

Your household
Show us how you and your partner share domestic matters. You could give us:

a statement about how you share housework
household bills in both names
mail or emails addressed to you both
documents that show joint responsibility for children
documents that prove your living arrangements

Commitment
Show us how you are committed to a long-term relationship with each other. You could give us:

proof you have knowledge of each otherís background, family situation or other personal details. You could tell us this at an interview
proof you have combined your personal matters
the terms of your wills
proof you stay in touch when apart

Social matters
Show us evidence that others know about your relationship, such as

joint invitations or evidence you go out together
proof you have friends in common
proof you have told government, public or commercial bodies about your relationship
proof you do joint sporting, cultural or social activities together
proof you travel together

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My friend was asked exactly this 2weeks after her CO requested her 2 new form 888 but before she even submitted the last request her visa was granted.


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We have just been granted our 820 Partner visa 9 months and 1 day from lodging 🙂 just thought I'd share in case anyone is interested in case we did something different that helped make the process faster 🙂

Bit of back story, we applied as a de facto couple, I'm the sponsor, my partner is Scottish. We met online and dated exclusively without meeting for 5 months before meeting in person in Feb 2019 and moving in together straight away. We came back to Australia Dec 2019, found out I was pregnant and applied for the partner visa on the 27th April 2020, visa granted 28 Jan 2021.

We saw an immigration agent in February 2020 for a paid consultation. Spoiler alert, we didn't end up using an agent and lodged ourselves. We were completely prepared to and expected to use an immigration agent. We went into the meeting having already started gathering information and had done a ton of research online. We had a few questions written up, a timeline of our relationship as well as what we thought (based off the application criteria,) what we thought could be hindrances to our application. By the end of the meeting, the agent actually told us that with how prepared and organised we were (I had a history of working in the legal field and was a real estate agent so being organised and thorough is part of mybjob description), we were better to submit the application ourselves.

Based off our meeting with her, we recognised that the weakness in our application was:
* Age difference (I am 32 and my partner is 22)
* I wasn't working (and wouldn't be able to due to covid and being pregnant)
* Half of our de facto relationship we had no set home as we were travelling and volunteering around Eastern Europe.
* We had only a joined account since arriving in Australia

The strength in our application was:
*our relationship was heavily documented through Facebook
*we had plenty of correspondence during brief periods of separation.
* We were expecting a child together (how much more committed can you be lol)

So throughout our application, we addressed all the criteria that was required, but we paid special attention and added as much as possible to our strengths and weaknesses. For example, we addressed our age difference front on in our history of relationship instead of gliding past it. We acknowledged that some people have been weirded out by the fact that the female is 10 years older, however, supplemented it by the fact that my partner was more emotionally mature having grown up in a much more independent environment and that age has never been an issue due to our shared interests and values (which we then backed up with Facebook posts and further evidence).
We had evidence on everything that was mentioned in our history of relationship and made sure it was referenced to. We also had easy to reference content pages to make it easier for our case officer. All our account statements were colour coded, highlighted and notations next to spendings that were relevant to our relationship.

We didn't front load our application due to advise from this forum as well as the immigration agent we met as the time frames quoted at the time was 24 -29 months.

Time frame of our application is as follows:
27 April 2020 - applied and all evidence uploaded
August 2020 - update submitted and updated application to include the birth of our son
November 2020 - update submitted
12 Jan 2021 - generic email to advise our application has been assigned to a case manager, so we organised and went to get health check in Sydney that day, also organised AFP police check.
22 Jan 2021 - AFP check came back and submitted
28 Jan 2021 - Visa granted after 9 months 🙂


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Have you been uploading new evidence once a couple of months since the lodgement? That should have shown your CO that your relationship has been continuing in the past 18 months and might suggest you should be granted the 801 together with the 820.
Cheers for the information. We have been uploading supporting evidence of the 4 pillars every 3 months to show the relationship is ongoing and our commitment.

Our RMA was always reaching out to give them new evidence. Sometimes is wasn't a lot, like maybe a dozen social photos of my partner and I with friends etc and the odd significant home purchases like a washing machine or sofa, kitchen appliances etc. With purchases we always showed receipts and the bank statement highlighting the transactions were from our joint bank account. My wife also began working so her financial aspects of your relationship drastically changed since first lodging our application. Utility bills and bank statements were always submitted regardless of how much or how little new evidence we had to give to the Department. We were consistent


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We have just been granted our 820 Partner visa 9 months and 1 day from lodging 🙂 just thought I'd share in case anyone is interested in case we did something different that helped make the process faster 🙂

Bit of back story, we applied as a de facto couple, I'm the sponsor, my partner is Scottish. We met online and dated exclusively without meeting for 5 months before meeting in person in Feb 2019 and moving in together straight away. We came back to Australia Dec 2019, found out I was pregnant and applied for the partner visa on the 27th April 2020, visa granted 28 Jan 2021.

We saw an immigration agent in February 2020 for a paid consultation. Spoiler alert, we didn't end up using an agent and lodged ourselves. We were completely prepared to and expected to use an immigration agent. We went into the meeting having already started gathering information and had done a ton of research online. We had a few questions written up, a timeline of our relationship as well as what we thought (based off the application criteria,) what we thought could be hindrances to our application. By the end of the meeting, the agent actually told us that with how prepared and organised we were (I had a history of working in the legal field and was a real estate agent so being organised and thorough is part of mybjob description), we were better to submit the application ourselves.

Based off our meeting with her, we recognised that the weakness in our application was:
* Age difference (I am 32 and my partner is 22)
* I wasn't working (and wouldn't be able to due to covid and being pregnant)
* Half of our de facto relationship we had no set home as we were travelling and volunteering around Eastern Europe.
* We had only a joined account since arriving in Australia

The strength in our application was:
*our relationship was heavily documented through Facebook
*we had plenty of correspondence during brief periods of separation.
* We were expecting a child together (how much more committed can you be lol)

So throughout our application, we addressed all the criteria that was required, but we paid special attention and added as much as possible to our strengths and weaknesses. For example, we addressed our age difference front on in our history of relationship instead of gliding past it. We acknowledged that some people have been weirded out by the fact that the female is 10 years older, however, supplemented it by the fact that my partner was more emotionally mature having grown up in a much more independent environment and that age has never been an issue due to our shared interests and values (which we then backed up with Facebook posts and further evidence).
We had evidence on everything that was mentioned in our history of relationship and made sure it was referenced to. We also had easy to reference content pages to make it easier for our case officer. All our account statements were colour coded, highlighted and notations next to spendings that were relevant to our relationship.

We didn't front load our application due to advise from this forum as well as the immigration agent we met as the time frames quoted at the time was 24 -29 months.

Time frame of our application is as follows:
27 April 2020 - applied and all evidence uploaded
August 2020 - update submitted and updated application to include the birth of our son
November 2020 - update submitted
12 Jan 2021 - generic email to advise our application has been assigned to a case manager, so we organised and went to get health check in Sydney that day, also organised AFP police check.
22 Jan 2021 - AFP check came back and submitted
28 Jan 2021 - Visa granted after 9 months 🙂
Hi Erillant,

Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s such a great advice.

Can you please give more details on how you note your bank statements? Did you print them out and write on them or edit them via adobe or include a word document to explain?


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Just wanted to know how did everyone who applied the partner visa arrange their whatsapp or text conversation history? Would taking screenshot (let's say take a screenshot once every fortnightly) better or copy and paste the chat export (chat export is in text file format)?


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Old 01-29-2021, 06:31 AM
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Hi everyone,

Im totally new here. And this is my case
- May 2018: Applied partner visa
stay on BVA and got the medical done as well as Police check
- Oct 2019: Sponsor withdrew sponsorship. Got told by agent to apply under the violent case.
- March 2020: Went back to my country (BVB which would be expired in Sep 2020) . Due to Covid 19 I could not come back on time and got stuck in my country since.
- December 2020: Were asked to get the medical and AFP done again.
- 14 December 2020: All document submitted.
And Until now I have not heard anything new from the government.
It has been 2years and 8 months waiting.
I'd like to get some advice from you guys cause im so confused now.


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