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Old 04-25-2010, 12:00 AM
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Angry ***Prospective Marriage Visa??? HELP PLEASE!!!****

Hey everyone.....Another question....

I am a US Citizen my boyfriend is a AU Citizen. We've been looking into a Prospective Marriage Visa.

But what we're wondering is are we better off if I get a holiday visa, get married and then apply for a partner visa onshore??? To avoid having to apply for the Pros. Visa?

And how long does the Partner Visa normally take???

Ugh....hours or seaching for the correct path to take. ANY ideas/advice is much appreciated....even if it's what we want to hear :P

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Hi there,

It's certainly confusing as to which subclass to apply for, but I think the biggest considerations have to be how much time you have and the amount of evidence you can gather in that time.

The prospective marrige visa doesn't require the 12 months living together, but you do have to organise a no impediment to marriage certificate in order to apply for an intent to marry notice i.e. you have to have a wedding date arranged and/or celebrant booked as part of the application.

It's absolutley possible to get a tourist visa first and then get married before applying for an onshore visa. In this case though you would need to have your evidence and documents ready to go so that your application is 'decision ready', cutting down the processing time, which can be longer onshore than offshore.

Also, you need to be careful if asked what your intention is while in Aust. because if airport customs or immigration suspect you may try to stay in Oz rather than just travel, they may not grant the tourist visa. You being from a 'low risk' country may mean this is not an issue, but I have read about Filipina ladies having a hell of a time just getting a tourist visa from fear that they won't return to the Phillipines, and others from 'high risk' countries such as Pakistan or Egypt waiting months on end for spouse visas.

Why not get married now if this is something you intend to do anyway? You don't have to have a ceremony, but just go to a registery office and sign the papers, then have a ceremony once you get to Australia on a spouse visa? You may have thought about it already, and I know marriage is something that shouldn't be rushed, but it could save you a lot of hassle, time and some money, since offshore visas cost less than onshore and can take less time to process

According to the DIAC site, it takes up to 6 months for an onshore visa, but in practice I don't think it's this long. But, as I said earlier, make sure you have a complete applicatoin ready to go if you go that route. I have heard of applicants arranging appointments to hand in applications in person instead of via post and getting visas the same day. Don't count on this, but such things have happened to some lucky people.

Hope this makes your decision a bit easier


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Hey everyone.....Another question....

I am a US Citizen my boyfriend is a AU Citizen. We've been looking into a Prospective Marriage Visa.

But what we're wondering is are we better off if I get a holiday visa, get married and then apply for a partner visa onshore??? To avoid having to apply for the Pros. Visa?

And how long does the Partner Visa normally take???

Ugh....hours or seaching for the correct path to take. ANY ideas/advice is much appreciated....even if it's what we want to hear :P

Much thanks
Samantha and Tim
Most tourist or visitor visas have what is called a No Further Stay condition Sam and for a partner visa you need 12 months together.

If you already have the 12 months together you could look at getting an ETA - Electronic Travel Authority (ETA) - Online Applications [ for the purpose of a visit ] and apply onshore.

If you do not have 12 months together, it is really only the PMV that is possible, though in ACT, Victoria and Tasmania you can apply for a relationship registration which will mean the 12 months is waived; still relationship evidence needed and you would need to get a drivers licence [ in Victoria at least ] for the RR.

Have you checked to see if you're eligible for the USA W &H program in Oz - http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/462/





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But what we're wondering is are we better off if I get a holiday visa, get married and then apply for a partner visa onshore??? To avoid having to apply for the Pros. Visa?

And how long does the Partner Visa normally take???


Much thanks
Samantha and Tim
Why would you want to avoid doing the prospective marriage visa? It is the safest and quickest way and tailor made for your situation. That way you can finalise and settle up your affairs in the US, secure in the knowledge you have the right visa to enter this country.

Yes some people do the tourist visa to spouse visa route, but there is always an element of risk. For me personally I don't like that kind of risk for something as important as this. In your situation it depends on too many outside factors that we don't know about, such as for example, how quickly can you build up the kind of evidence you need for the spouse visa while you are here on the tourist visa and how likely your tourist visa is to have a 'no further stay' condition etc. You won't be able to get Medicare coverage or work while you are here on a tourist visa. Only you can assess all of those elements in relation to your own situation.

The evidence you need for the prospective marriage visa is different from the spouse visa, and it is very easy to put together. The spouse visa evidence took us several months of living together to build up ie the financial aspects evidence, nature of the household etc. kind of evidence.

My husband is a USC. We went the fiance visa, followed by spouse visa route, and are doing his PR processing now. We went through the Washington office for the PMV and it took about 3 months (including down time over Christmas/New Year). No difficulties whatsoever.

There is no way we would have taken the risk of him coming here on a tourist visa, marrying, then doing the spouse visa onshore, but we are both cautious types lol.

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I found your post interesting because I have been nagging myself about what to do with my fiance who is from the united states. I am an australian citizen.

We are unsure how to go about our visa but PMV is the original option we were looking at. After reading so many post, it started to confuse me and I started to question myself if I was going about it the right way... but after reading your post I can totally relate to what youre saying.

Would you be so kind in giving me a little more detail about how you went about it? Because when my partner and I apply, we are going to apply offshore (me being in australia, him being in america and go through the australian immi office in washington USA). Can you please give me approximate periods you had to wait, evidence you needed etc? I would appreciate your feedback so much.

I know I am replying to your post late but I only needed this site until now!

thank you!!!


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Mallory

I found your post interesting because I have been nagging myself about what to do with my fiance who is from the united states. I am an australian citizen.

We are unsure how to go about our visa but PMV is the original option we were looking at. After reading so many post, it started to confuse me and I started to question myself if I was going about it the right way... but after reading your post I can totally relate to what youre saying.

Would you be so kind in giving me a little more detail about how you went about it? Because when my partner and I apply, we are going to apply offshore (me being in australia, him being in america and go through the australian immi office in washington USA). Can you please give me approximate periods you had to wait, evidence you needed etc? I would appreciate your feedback so much.

I know I am replying to your post late but I only needed this site until now!

thank you!!!
Hi dee1985, I have just come across this wonderful website in search of some answers, I don't usually sign up to forums ever, but on this occasion is just had to. These previous posts are dating back to 2010 so i don't think that those members will reply. Anyway, I too am currently in the process of organising a Visa for my Fiancé in the US, I'm from Australia. I'm dealing with a Prospective Marriage Visa Subclass 300 to get her here, I've read that the processing time is about 5 to 10 months, which is stated in the booklet, it would be nice to know if (with enough legit documents provided) the time would be less than that. I'm not sure what else to say here, just know that you're not alone, feel free to ask me anything you like relating to this matter, we could both learn from each other


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Hi dee1985, I have just come across this wonderful website in search of some answers, I don't usually sign up to forums ever, but on this occasion is just had to. These previous posts are dating back to 2010 so i don't think that those members will reply. Anyway, I too am currently in the process of organising a Visa for my Fiancé in the US, I'm from Australia. I'm dealing with a Prospective Marriage Visa Subclass 300 to get her here, I've read that the processing time is about 5 to 10 months, which is stated in the booklet, it would be nice to know if (with enough legit documents provided) the time would be less than that. I'm not sure what else to say here, just know that you're not alone, feel free to ask me anything you like relating to this matter, we could both learn from each other

Yes I am a little delayed hahahaha, but thank you for being so kind and replying to my post

My fiance and I arent announcing our engagement until he comes and visits me at the end of the year as he is still yet to meet a few more important people in my life, but we will have a proper engagement party once he arrives. I have to wait until Nov this year to see him again though, so it has been tough. We haven't actually logged any visa's as yet but when we do I just want to make sure we have everything needed is on hand, and it would help if someone has been through it or in the process of it, to give me a few tips on what they're going to ask for (I have read the booklet but it would be nice if someone can give me a proper run down to make my life easier).... I just dont want something I dont know about holding up my application for when I apply for it...


any help would be so so so much appreciated!

P.s - GOOD LUCK with your application!!!


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Yes I am a little delayed hahahaha, but thank you for being so kind and replying to my post

My fiance and I arent announcing our engagement until he comes and visits me at the end of the year as he is still yet to meet a few more important people in my life, but we will have a proper engagement party once he arrives. I have to wait until Nov this year to see him again though, so it has been tough. We haven't actually logged any visa's as yet but when we do I just want to make sure we have everything needed is on hand, and it would help if someone has been through it or in the process of it, to give me a few tips on what they're going to ask for (I have read the booklet but it would be nice if someone can give me a proper run down to make my life easier).... I just dont want something I dont know about holding up my application for when I apply for it...


any help would be so so so much appreciated!

P.s - GOOD LUCK with your application!!!
I have been looking up many websites and reading a lot of information, the Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300), has a checklist document, which states everything that is required for the visa, and i read that presentation of this visa is to go in the order of things listed on said checklist, a cover letter and table of contents is not required, but would make it easier for the people on the other end to navigate through your documents, don't staple the paper or file in a folder, neatly display each section with paperclips, followed by an alligator clip to hold them all together in a bunch, have all of your documents in a nice envelope, send all of your files to your fiancé so he can add his application document followed by any supporting documents, and then have your fiancé in the US mail that envelope inside a tracked/express postal envelope straight to washington.

This is the way i will be doing it for my fiancé, Im in the process of getting a NOIM right now, I have found a celebrant who has worked with, and is currently working with clients who have/are also doing the very same thing

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I have been looking up many websites and reading a lot of information, the Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300), has a checklist document, which states everything that is required for the visa, and i read that presentation of this visa is to go in the order of things listed on said checklist, a cover letter and table of contents is not required, but would make it easier for the people on the other end to navigate through your documents, don't staple the paper or file in a folder, neatly display each section with paperclips, followed by an alligator clip to hold them all together in a bunch, have all of your documents in a nice envelope, send all of your files to your fiancé so he can add his application document followed by any supporting documents, and then have your fiancé in the US mail that envelope inside a tracked/express postal envelope straight to washington.

This is the way i will be doing it for my fiancé, Im in the process of getting a NOIM right now, I have found a celebrant who has worked with, and is currently working with clients who have/are also doing the very same thing
Oh great! That is helpful thank you for sharing! May I ask what state you live in? How long have you and your fiance been together for?

I have looked up so many websites etc also - to ensure I am on the right track, I think I am so far. Since you are doing yours before mine I would love to keep in touch to know your updates so I can learn from you if that is OK?


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Oh great! That is helpful thank you for sharing! May I ask what state you live in? How long have you and your fiance been together for?

I have looked up so many websites etc also - to ensure I am on the right track, I think I am so far. Since you are doing yours before mine I would love to keep in touch to know your updates so I can learn from you if that is OK?
I am in Queensland, Gold Coast! I have known her for a few years now, I have traveled back and forth many times during the course of our relationship, and I proposed to her at the start of this year, being apart from each other for periods of time isn't nice, but we are both very positive people and we know that if we keep a positive mind and focus on our goals then we'll get to where we want to be in no time at all. Of course I can update you with everything, no problem at all


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