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Old 05-25-2010, 12:58 AM
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Honor mean, I have ASCO CODE 2231-79 Computing professional. My profession is still availabe but with different ANZSCO. I have a question that, while logging application for which code I should apply.

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Do we have any ASCO and ANZSCO comparasion list availabe.
I would hope that there will be some advice from Immi when they publish the new SOL as in the current format.

Meanwhile, I recall one poster posting something about ACS issuing ANZSCO assessments for people having attained them previously with an equivalent ASCO number but I have no concrete proof of that and you could contact ACS to see if that is the case.
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Dear All,

I hv a question, if any one can help me out. I have done Masters in Computer Networks and doing Job as GSM Network Planner since 4 years. As per new SOL Telecommunication Network Planner category is available but my degree is related to Computer Sciences. Does I am eligible to apply for Aus Immigration and if yes then how can I related my degree with my experience.

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I hv a question, if any one can help me out. I have done Masters in Computer Networks and doing Job as GSM Network Planner since 4 years. As per new SOL Telecommunication Network Planner category is available but my degree is related to Computer Sciences. Does I am eligible to apply for Aus Immigration and if yes then how can I related my degree with my experience.

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Your first step will be seeing what you can get assessed as with the ACS and with an occupational assessment you can look at what your overall eligibility will be once the new changes are fully implemented.





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I would hope that there will be some advice from Immi when they publish the new SOL as in the current format.

Meanwhile, I recall one poster posting something about ACS issuing ANZSCO assessments for people having attained them previously with an equivalent ASCO number but I have no concrete proof of that and you could contact ACS to see if that is the case.
Please post back on what you find.
I have asked ACS same question and but they gave me this answer. Still it is not clear!!!!

Dear Mr. Ameerullah,

A new list of Skilled Occupations (incorporating ANZSCO codes) has been published by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC) on 17 May 2010 - this is in support of a proposed new Skilled Occupation List (SOL) to be implemented on 1 July 2010. It is intended that the new SOL would apply to all new GSM applications made from the date of implementation, except where transitional arrangements are likely to be provided for. Subject to the approval of the Governor-General in Council of amendments to the Migration Regulations 1994, it is intended that a new SOL would come into effect from 1 July 2010, along with the transitional provisions.

Subject to the approval of the Governor-General in Council of the proposed legislative amendments, it is intended that a number of transitional arrangements would be introduced to minimise the impact of this change on international students.



Further information is available on the DIAC’s website at: whats-new.

What does this mean for people applying for a Migration Skills Assessment by the Australian Computer Society?

1- Up to and including 30 June 2010, assessment outcome letters will be issued in ASCO codes only.
2 - From and including 1 July 2010, assessment outcome letters will be issued in ANZSCO codes only.
Applicants who hold, or are about to hold, an assessment outcome letter with an ASCO code issued by the ACS prior to 1 July 2010, will be advised on the assessment outcome review process in due course. Please regularly visit the Migration Skills Assessment section on the ACS website for updated information.


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I applied skill assessment for "IT Manager" with ACS 6 weeks ago and it's a half way on the process. Now I don't know if this assessment will be applicable for "System Analyst" which is in the new SOL. I inquired ACS and the reply was as below. Anybody have any idea, Thanks.

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I applied skill assessment for "IT Manager" with ACS 6 weeks ago and it's a half way on the process. Now I don't know if this assessment will be applicable for "System Analyst" which is in the new SOL. I inquired ACS and the reply was as below. Anybody have any idea, Thanks.

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The review of current Migration Regulations is taking place and until it is complete and the new Regulations are publicly available, the ACS is in no position to comment/act in any other way but according to the current Regulations.

Please continue to check the ACS website for updates relation to any further changes or information.
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If you have a look at the wording of Immi announcements, then other than for onshore applications, the old SOL is effectively dead because Immi suspended taking applications.
That to some extent has left assessment organisations like the ACS in limbo land and I can appreciate that they would even be reticent to proceed with assessments against new ANZSCO classifications for legally until there is a new SOL produced and they are the annointed assessing authority, they really do not have the authority.
As they say, they can only really act in accordance with regulations current at the time.

Their mention of transitional arrangements is because of those published by Immi re the onshore applications.

I do not know whether Immi have had feedback from organisations like ACS or the Migration agents association re an assessments transition for offshore applicants[ though they have been vocal on other issues ] and it will rest with Immi what cognisance they give to the situation.

Meanwhile the situation for people like you in No mans land is somehat worse because of you possibly heading down the garden path into the unknown.

I could make a guess and say Immi may unlikely address a transition beyween ASCO and ANZSCO but I may also be wrong.

If I was in the same situation, I suppose I would take the following approach.
1. Ask ACS if they can put a hold on your ASCO assessment until more is known with release of the new SOL if in fact they will allow ammended submissions for assessment against a new SOL classification.

2. I would also ask them whether ACS may be making a submission to Immi in respect to people that will be caught between ASCO and ANZSCO assessments.

3. And if they will put a hold on your assessment, I would then address myself to what new ANZSCO classification your qualifications and experience align you with and see whether you will meet the requirements for assessment.

It is certainly something of a mess and one that the Minister and Immi policy people can take no pride in.





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It is certainly something of a mess and one that the Minister and Immi policy people can take no pride in.
I second that...

It just shows lack of co-ordination between ACS and DIAC. If it would have been managed properly none of the ACS applicants would be in limbo. Or maybe (at-least) ACS should have stopped accepting assessment applications when new SOL was announced and DIAC told applicants to wait till 1st July.

I was about to launch my ACS assessment in Feb when MODL reverted and signaled some major changes and I am waiting till now. Each country (UK, Canada, Australia) has its cons in immigration process. Australia's being sudden disastrous surprises like 08 Feb 2010 and 17 May 2010.

You may wake up one fine morning to know that all of the sudden you are not eligible any more or they are going to refund your application.


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It just shows lack of co-ordination between ACS and DIAC. If it would have been managed properly none of the ACS applicants would be in limbo. Or maybe (at-least) ACS should have stopped accepting assessment applications when new SOL was announced and DIAC told applicants to wait till 1st July.

I was about to launch my ACS assessment in Feb when MODL reverted and signaled some major changes and I am waiting till now. Each country (UK, Canada, Australia) has its cons in immigration process. Australia's being sudden disastrous surprises like 08 Feb 2010 and 17 May 2010.

You may wake up one fine morning to know that all of the sudden you are not eligible any more or they are going to refund your application.
As woeful a transition as it is in some respects, you do have to remember that the ACS is just one of quite a few assessing authorities
And I doubt that Immi do have the legal power to direct assessing organisations on what approach they should take and the assessing authorities still need to assess for those onshore.

The changes are not so much sudden nor a surprise for reviews occurred in 2009 and there was a reasonable indication of what was being looked at and that was the future of SOL/MODL and CSL, the latter always having been seen as an interim measure.
When you see that the numbers of applicants queueing are something like three times the available annual places and that excess likely to grow whilst attaining the right occupations has been an issue, change did have to be made.

The one area where it could be better [ and it yet may be resolved ] is to have some clarity on if there will be transition from ASCO/old SOL to ANZSCO/new SOL, though there is some onus on potential applicants to investigate thoroughly what they would be best doing.
So disastrous is probably something of a strong word to describe the situation and other than something of a wait, hopefully the numbers badly affected will be minimal.





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As woeful a transition as it is in some respects, you do have to remember that the ACS is just one of quite a few assessing authorities.
And I doubt that Immi do have the legal power to direct assessing organisations on what approach they should take and the assessing authorities still need to assess for those onshore..
Yes there are other authorities but that shouldn't be a problem of applicant. My point was, there must be somebody (it should be DIAC) making sure that the whole immigration process makes sense and is well co-ordinated and when a change is made, clients/applicants are not left in limbo. I hope you will agree with me.

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The changes are not so much sudden nor a surprise for reviews occurred in 2009 and there was a reasonable indication of what was being looked at and that was the future of SOL/MODL and CSL, the latter always having been seen as an interim measure.
When you see that the numbers of applicants queueing are something like three times the available annual places and that excess likely to grow whilst attaining the right occupations has been an issue, change did have to be made..
For me, all of Feb 08 changes were sudden
Priority Processing is a change that haunts all who have submitted applications - no one knows when their occupation will be dropped to lowest priority.

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The one area where it could be better [ and it yet may be resolved ] is to have some clarity on if there will be transition from ASCO/old SOL to ANZSCO/new SOL, though there is some onus on potential applicants to investigate thoroughly what they would be best doing.
Same as always, all of us are expecting changes but what are the likely changes? Is there a reasonable indication of what SMP will be and how priorities will work after 1st July or SMP? Everything is kept hush hush till the last moment and then there could be an announcement in the end that none of us expects. I am against these kind of surprises because immigration is not an easy task - it takes time for a person to makeup his mind and choose a country to immigrate to from his homeland. Its never easy to leave your homeland. And when you make up your mind and submit your application or are about submit your application it is announced that xyz changes have been made from today and you dont qualify anymore or you are at the lowest priority with uncertain future of your application - imagine how frustrating that can be

All I am trying to say is immigration is not a joke for applicants and that DIAC should try to announce changes and give reasonable time before implementation so people can assess if Australia suits them or not (they can and could have done this in most cases). Like in current scenario they could announce exact details of the (most if not all) changes being implemented on 1st July so that everyone can read and assess themselves and get on with their lives instead of making speculations.

DIAC is not that bad (specially when compared to UKBA) all it needs is some improvement.

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So disastrous is probably something of a strong word to describe the situation and other than something of a wait, hopefully the numbers badly affected will be minimal.
I not sure about that lets see what 1st July brings for everyone
lets hope for the best.


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DIAC is not that bad (specially when compared to UKBA) all it needs is some improvement.
UKBA is processing application within weeks.
DIAC sucks even worse than UKBA.


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