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Old 06-12-2010, 09:31 AM
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All I am trying to say is immigration is not a joke for applicants and that DIAC should try to announce changes and give reasonable time before implementation so people can assess if Australia suits them or not (they can and could have done this in most cases). Like in current scenario they could announce exact details of the (most if not all) changes being implemented on 1st July so that everyone can read and assess themselves and get on with their lives instead of making speculations.
If you have never worked in an organisation that has the responsibility for assessing thousands of applications each week you could easily fail to appreciate the work involved in monitoring what is going on to determine what ought to be reviewed and then developing changes.

And then you have the situation where people knowing that a system is being changed will expedite applications and that will cause two main problems,
One being for applicants for if they rush an application they could get it wrong.
Then there is the flood of applications that occurs and that is most likely the main reason why offshore applications were suspended.

You may have been unaware of changes being developed but those announced on 08Feb. were certainly not out of the blue and there had been some expectations of them being ready about three months earlier, that being just another indication of the complexity of various issues that had to be addressed.
Easy to say have it all fully developed beforehand re
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whole immigration process makes sense and is well co-ordinated and when a change is made, clients/applicants are not left in limbo. I hope you will agree with me.
Again, why it is taking time and only relatively few applicants in limbo.

As to how priorities will work in the future, be it July 01 or not, perhaps you have not bothered to read the information available, it being clearly stated what the priority levels are.
As to what will be on the SMPs you can expect them to closely resemble what was on the CSL, there being a bit of variation re state needs and their former sponsorship lists are something of an indication.

You may not like the changes and yes, resistance to change is a natural trait but if you knew anything of what has been occurring you may appreciate why the changes are as they are and in reality, other than the chance from ASCO to ANZSCO that has just given an extra twist, the changes for most professionals with in demand skills will have altered little.

Sure it'll be frustrating for some but perhaps additional time to investigate what Australia may be like, costs of living and where in Australia may suit people best can be used to ones advantage.
Many people do seem to take on immigration with no real idea of what may be ahead of them after having a visa granted.





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UKBA is processing application within weeks.
DIAC sucks even worse than UKBA.
Yes your are right - processing time is a huge plus of UKBA but at the same time you remain at the edge and under pressure that you have to maintain a certain status (which is pretty high for a new comer) because you will be assessed again after 2 years - there is a chance they might throw you out after 2 years if you don't make enough points (enough salary) even if you have a job that gives you enough to survive as a starter.

You are asking a guy to make UK his home (its in the initial application form) he says yes and leaves his homeland and relatives to start over for a better future and at the same time you say okay we have your commitment but we can throw you out after 2 years if you dont earn xxxx amount and pay us xxxx tax.

Its like saying - okay give this guy a chance - if he is able to earn and pay tax we'll keep him otherwise we'll throw him out. Its a win win situation for UK but its a risky chance for the applicant. I dont think its a fair deal, commitment needs to be from both ends.
Australia and Canada are better for immigrants in this regard.


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If you have never worked in an organisation that has the responsibility for assessing thousands of applications each week you could easily fail to appreciate the work involved in monitoring what is going on to determine what ought to be reviewed and then developing changes.

And then you have the situation where people knowing that a system is being changed will expedite applications and that will cause two main problems,
One being for applicants for if they rush an application they could get it wrong.
Then there is the flood of applications that occurs and that is most likely the main reason why offshore applications were suspended.

You may have been unaware of changes being developed but those announced on 08Feb. were certainly not out of the blue and there had been some expectations of them being ready about three months earlier, that being just another indication of the complexity of various issues that had to be addressed.
Easy to say have it all fully developed beforehand re
Again, why it is taking time and only relatively few applicants in limbo.

As to how priorities will work in the future, be it July 01 or not, perhaps you have not bothered to read the information available, it being clearly stated what the priority levels are.
As to what will be on the SMPs you can expect them to closely resemble what was on the CSL, there being a bit of variation re state needs and their former sponsorship lists are something of an indication.

You may not like the changes and yes, resistance to change is a natural trait but if you knew anything of what has been occurring you may appreciate why the changes are as they are and in reality, other than the chance from ASCO to ANZSCO that has just given an extra twist, the changes for most professionals with in demand skills will have altered little.

Sure it'll be frustrating for some but perhaps additional time to investigate what Australia may be like, costs of living and where in Australia may suit people best can be used to ones advantage.
Many people do seem to take on immigration with no real idea of what may be ahead of them after having a visa granted.
I have bothered to read about new priority levels but we are still not sure about SMP are we?

Maybe you got the wrong idea about me - I not agaisnt DIAC or Australia - I have choosen Australia for immigration for a reason. I am talking about where in my view DIAC or whole immigration process could be improved i.e announce details of the changes before they are implemented. There is always room for improvment, isn't there?

I am not worried about the changes and I am not resisting the change becuase my resistance has no meaning to DIAC - besiedes I am on the new SOL and I am quite sure i'll still be eligible after 1st July.

Australia has every right to makes changes to immgration to best suit its needs but they should consider effects on applicants that are in process.

Its an endless discussion - with no out come - whatever we say is not going to effect any policy or the way it is implemented. So I am out of it, sorry if I have offended anyone. Lets wait for 1st July and SMP.


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UKBA is processing application within weeks.
DIAC sucks even worse than UKBA.
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I have bothered to read about new priority levels but we are still not sure about SMP are we?

Maybe you got the wrong idea about me - I not agaisnt DIAC or Australia - I have choosen Australia for immigration for a reason. I am talking about where in my view DIAC or whole immigration process could be improved i.e announce details of the changes before they are implemented. There is always room for improvment, isn't there?

I am not worried about the changes and I am not resisting the change becuase my resistance has no meaning to DIAC - besiedes I am on the new SOL and I am quite sure i'll still be eligible after 1st July.

Australia has every right to makes changes to immgration to best suit its needs but they should consider effects on applicants that are in process.

Its an endless discussion - with no out come - whatever we say is not going to effect any policy or the way it is implemented. So I am out of it, sorry if I have offended anyone. Lets wait for 1st July and SMP.
Well you may not be too sure about the SMP but quite clearly occupations in them will be priority No.2.

What you also seem to have lost sight of or taken bugger all notice of is that already right now the numbers of skilled visas in the queue for consideration is only about three times what the annual intake may be.

If you think about it for a moment, it would have been just bloody ridiculous to not have suspended taking offhore applications on the old SOL if that number was mushrooming.
Meanwhile with a priority focus on employer sponsorship the ratio of independent applicants to available spaces can only but grow.

Already there are applications that will never likely see the light of day and hence announcement of capping and ceasing legislation so people in that situation can be told they will never likely have a chance so here's a refund.

As to improvement you suggest, it is a proven fact that when you announce the full details of changes in advance, there will be a flood of applications as had already occurred I say again.
Immi did exactly that with the 08Feb. announcement did they not and again a flood was looming.

It would seem you would want that to happen and have four or five years worth of applications in a queue and I doubt you would be happy waiting that long now would you.
So how good would your ideas be then?





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Old 06-29-2010, 08:44 AM
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Asco-anzsco-sol-correlations

FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE CONFUSED WITH WHAT THE RE ASCO CODES RELATES TO CHECK THIS OUT.

SKILLED OCCUPATION LIST (SOL) SCHEDULE 4
(INCLUDING DIAC-ENDORSED ASCO ANZSCO CORRELATIONS AS AT 1 JULY 2010)
This list applies to occupations in the State Migration Plans (StatSOL) with ANZSCO codes. This list applies to applicants for subclasses
176 (Skilled Sponsored), 886 (Skilled Sponsored), 475 (Skilled Regional Sponsored) and 487 (Skilled Regional Sponsored) visas who are nominated by
a State or Territory government agency.
Applicants can only nominate an ANZSCO occupation from 1 July 2010. The ASCO codes correlated to ANZSCO occupations provide DIAC-endorsed
policy guidance for the purposes of acceptable skills assessments. An applicant with a relevant valid skills assessment in an ASCO occupation should map it to
the relevant ANZSCO occupation.

JUST SEARCH-----http://www.immi.gov.au/employers/_pdf/asco-anzsco-sol-correlations.pdf


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Yeah! It was announced 4 days ago.


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Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO)
The SOL/ENSOL transitions will take some weight off a few minds but there are conditions there, mainly re an assessment remaining valid.





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Transition from having an ASCO assessment applicable to new ANZSCO occupations has been announced.
Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO)
You'll need to scroll down for the SOL/ENSOL listings links.
Conditions do apply and the obvious one being that your ASCO assessment from an assessing authority is still valid.





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