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Old 05-24-2010, 01:53 AM
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Visa Help PLEASE!!

Hello,

I am a US resident, currently in Australia on a 12 mth. tourist/visitor visa which expires on June 4, 2010. I am not able to extend this visa while remaining in the country.

So, i booked a flight to NZ on the 4th, and a return flight to Australia on the 5th, so that I could go over, get an ETA and return....however, upon reading more, although I don't need a visa to enter NZ...it says I need a return ticket booked to a country I have access too. Technically when i go over, i won't be allowed back into Australia (until i get my ETA online) Sooo, in order to prevent bad trouble, I'd like to do what I can to ensure my safe travels now.

Is this going to be a problem? Should i change my flight dates etc.? I have looked at actually applying for a visitor visa for NZ, and of course it takes days, I don't have alot of time and I am nowhere near an office to submit my application.

Please tell me what I should do, to minimize costs and trouble??

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Old 05-24-2010, 03:30 AM
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Hello,

I am a US resident, currently in Australia on a 12 mth. tourist/visitor visa which expires on June 4, 2010. I am not able to extend this visa while remaining in the country.

So, i booked a flight to NZ on the 4th, and a return flight to Australia on the 5th, so that I could go over, get an ETA and return....however, upon reading more, although I don't need a visa to enter NZ...it says I need a return ticket booked to a country I have access too. Technically when i go over, i won't be allowed back into Australia (until i get my ETA online) Sooo, in order to prevent bad trouble, I'd like to do what I can to ensure my safe travels now.

Is this going to be a problem? Should i change my flight dates etc.? I have looked at actually applying for a visitor visa for NZ, and of course it takes days, I don't have alot of time and I am nowhere near an office to submit my application.

Please tell me what I should do, to minimize costs and trouble??

Thanks
Just had a peek at your other thread Sweetie and I was wondering what sort of visa you may have been on and yes, as you've found out a lengthy tourist visa will normally have the No Further Stay Condition on it.
A visa for NZ will not really help your situation as you'll still need a flight out.

What I've suggested to people in this situation and there have been a few mind you, people on WHVs too is that they need to do either as you plan and reschedule your flights so you head over for a couple of days and have a return booked for a couple of days before the tourist visa expires and then apply for the ETA online there.

Alternately, you can book a refundable ticket from NZ to Fiji [ a travel agent perhaps best to see ] and then on getting the ETA you can cancel the flight, possibly a small ammount lost but it may be cheaper than rescheduling your existing flights.

Re the statements for your partner application, if you have other back up documentation that shows you both being at the same addresses and if your partner is with defence, I'd assume they will have documentation re moves and if you're on that documentation too, [ and I'd ex[pect you would be especially if security clearances are involved ] that'll lessen the requirement re statements from others but certainly look at family and work colleagues that are aware of you being together even if you're not seeing people regularly.

If you still have zilch, it is best to just tell it as it is.





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Just had a peek at your other thread Sweetie and I was wondering what sort of visa you may have been on and yes, as you've found out a lengthy tourist visa will normally have the No Further Stay Condition on it.
A visa for NZ will not really help your situation as you'll still need a flight out.

What I've suggested to people in this situation and there have been a few mind you, people on WHVs too is that they need to do either as you plan and reschedule your flights so you head over for a couple of days and have a return booked for a couple of days before the tourist visa expires and then apply for the ETA online there.

Alternately, you can book a refundable ticket from NZ to Fiji [ a travel agent perhaps best to see ] and then on getting the ETA you can cancel the flight, possibly a small ammount lost but it may be cheaper than rescheduling your existing flights.

Re the statements for your partner application, if you have other back up documentation that shows you both being at the same addresses and if your partner is with defence, I'd assume they will have documentation re moves and if you're on that documentation too, [ and I'd ex[pect you would be especially if security clearances are involved ] that'll lessen the requirement re statements from others but certainly look at family and work colleagues that are aware of you being together even if you're not seeing people regularly.

If you still have zilch, it is best to just tell it as it is.
Thanks Wanderer...I will look at changing my flight dates...possibly moving it back a day or so. I flew to NZ last month while my tourist visa still had about a mth on it, and got an ETA and came back, only to find out that upon re-entering it had defaulted me back to my previous tourist visa. I am not sure why this happened, but that is why I was worried about going and coming back before my current visa expired again. We already wasted 1k in flights...hotels etc.

If i booked a flight to Fiji, would I have to cancel my current flight back to Australia...as I have already booked it, or just book the Fiji one...keep the Australian flight...and cancel the Fiji flight upon re-entering Australia?

Arghh what a headache and costly thing all this stuff is...

All for love...well i guess that anything worth having is worth fighting for....


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Old 05-24-2010, 05:15 AM
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Thanks Wanderer...I will look at changing my flight dates...possibly moving it back a day or so. I flew to NZ last month while my tourist visa still had about a mth on it, and got an ETA and came back, only to find out that upon re-entering it had defaulted me back to my previous tourist visa. I am not sure why this happened, but that is why I was worried about going and coming back before my current visa expired again. We already wasted 1k in flights...hotels etc.

If i booked a flight to Fiji, would I have to cancel my current flight back to Australia...as I have already booked it, or just book the Fiji one...keep the Australian flight...and cancel the Fiji flight upon re-entering Australia?

Arghh what a headache and costly thing all this stuff is...

All for love...well i guess that anything worth having is worth fighting for....
That's a bit strange that an ETA defaulted back to your tourist visa because though you can only have one visa active at anyone time, once you have an ETA granted I would have thought that was it and your tourist visa would have ceased to exist.
I am no agent and not as closely privvy to all that Immi do and perhaps they have introduced something that does a reversal but very strange as I say.
Just putting the thinking cap on, perhaps what has happened is that I've also read of 12 months tourist visas also by default actually giving up to near a two year stay for the following happens:
. 12 months visa gets issued with a latest enter by date about 12 months from date of issue.
. They also have a validity for 12 months from date of last entry.
So it is possible that if you came out last year on a visa that has a latest enter by date of June04 but went to NZ a month ago, the Immi computer system may have a program that recognises your tourist visa eligibility as being more substantial and thus did not allow an ETA override.

Have you closely read your tourist visa to see whether it actually expires on June04 or whether that in fact was your latest entry date and it is valid to 12 months from when you returned from NZ.

If the tourist visa validity is not so clear and you did get an email confirmation of an ETA being granted or even a response as such online when you applied, I would check with Immi what the process was that actually occurred, either with a call to 131881 or go in to nearest office.

If the tourist visa is in fact still current rather than the ETA, you do not need the same thing occurring and if it does expire on June04, the only positive away around it is to be there when the tourist visa expires and then apply for the ETA, you will need to get a Fiji flight booked.

And there is nothing to stop you from having that booked at the same time as having a return to Australia booked [ you have that for after June 04 do you? ] and you can cancel the Fiji one as soon as you have the ETA, even before leaving NZ.
When I've been in Auckland airport [ a few years ago ] there was a tourist info alcove just around past a small eats shop to the left from customs exit and a couple of terminals there you could use if arriving on June04 and then you may be able to go to a check in counter and see if they will scan your passport just to see if it shows an ETA [ sc 976 ] issued.

If you find out you'll still have a tourist visa for quite a bit longer, 12 months after last enter, then you may want to re-think your actions and certainly get clarification from Immi as to whether an ETA should override the tourist visa to prevent it all being groundhog day again.





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That's a bit strange that an ETA defaulted back to your tourist visa because though you can only have one visa active at anyone time, once you have an ETA granted I would have thought that was it and your tourist visa would have ceased to exist.
I am no agent and not as closely privvy to all that Immi do and perhaps they have introduced something that does a reversal but very strange as I say.
Just putting the thinking cap on, perhaps what has happened is that I've also read of 12 months tourist visas also by default actually giving up to near a two year stay for the following happens:
. 12 months visa gets issued with a latest enter by date about 12 months from date of issue.
. They also have a validity for 12 months from date of last entry.
So it is possible that if you came out last year on a visa that has a latest enter by date of June04 but went to NZ a month ago, the Immi computer system may have a program that recognises your tourist visa eligibility as being more substantial and thus did not allow an ETA override.

Have you closely read your tourist visa to see whether it actually expires on June04 or whether that in fact was your latest entry date and it is valid to 12 months from when you returned from NZ.

If the tourist visa validity is not so clear and you did get an email confirmation of an ETA being granted or even a response as such online when you applied, I would check with Immi what the process was that actually occurred, either with a call to 131881 or go in to nearest office.

If the tourist visa is in fact still current rather than the ETA, you do not need the same thing occurring and if it does expire on June04, the only positive away around it is to be there when the tourist visa expires and then apply for the ETA, you will need to get a Fiji flight booked.

And there is nothing to stop you from having that booked at the same time as having a return to Australia booked [ you have that for after June 04 do you? ] and you can cancel the Fiji one as soon as you have the ETA, even before leaving NZ.
When I've been in Auckland airport [ a few years ago ] there was a tourist info alcove just around past a small eats shop to the left from customs exit and a couple of terminals there you could use if arriving on June04 and then you may be able to go to a check in counter and see if they will scan your passport just to see if it shows an ETA [ sc 976 ] issued.

If you find out you'll still have a tourist visa for quite a bit longer, 12 months after last enter, then you may want to re-think your actions and certainly get clarification from Immi as to whether an ETA should override the tourist visa to prevent it all being groundhog day again.
OK, i just wanted to clarify...so maybe this will help people in the future...basically IMMI told me that my ETA is sitting there...and will become valid after my tourist visa expires, although the time is already running on it since i purchased it. (April 19th)

Sooo, i will not have to get another ETA, but since i already have flights booked, i will go ahead and fly to NZ and back to reset the 3 mths on my ETA....

what a mess...but ty for your help Wanderer I think i'll call IMMI one more time tomorrow to be sure, since sometimes you seem to get a diff answer each time you call... x_x


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OK, i just wanted to clarify...so maybe this will help people in the future...basically IMMI told me that my ETA is sitting there...and will become valid after my tourist visa expires, although the time is already running on it since i purchased it. (April 19th)

Sooo, i will not have to get another ETA, but since i already have flights booked, i will go ahead and fly to NZ and back to reset the 3 mths on my ETA....

what a mess...but ty for your help Wanderer I think i'll call IMMI one more time tomorrow to be sure, since sometimes you seem to get a diff answer each time you call... x_x
I reckon that's a good idea, though even better if you can get into an office,
they listed @ Departmental Offices
And I say that for it is not unknown to get some odd advice over the phone when you may end up with a less experienced person [ and BTDT ].
You may fare better in person and if someone is not sure, do not hesitate to ask to see a more senior person.

I have never heard of an ETA sitting there waiting to go for that implies a visa has been granted already and as I say you can not have two at anyone time and the only thing that comes close to one kicking in when another ceases is Bridging visas and I wonder whether whomever you have spoken to has got confused.





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