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I am new to the forum. I applied for 176 visa on 1 Apr 2010(for Victoria state) as refrigeration and air conditioning mechanic from India.

I received Offshore Technical Skills Record from VETASSESS and need to complete gap training to receive full qualification.

As the visa process may take long time I wish to travel to australia as student / apprentice to complete gap training and return to India , so that I can find an employer.

Is it possible to get a visa to complete the training while my 176 application is under processing?

Is there any one who completed this training?
what are the cost and duration of this training?

Please give me some advice

sateesh


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Hi ,

I am new to the forum. I applied for 176 visa on 1 Apr 2010(for Victoria state) as refrigeration and air conditioning mechanic from India.

I received Offshore Technical Skills Record from VETASSESS and need to complete gap training to receive full qualification.

As the visa process may take long time I wish to travel to australia as student / apprentice to complete gap training and return to India , so that I can find an employer.

Is it possible to get a visa to complete the training while my 176 application is under processing?

Is there any one who completed this training?
what are the cost and duration of this training?

Please give me some advice

sateesh
If you have applied for a 176 visa without having the required occupational assessment it is likely your visa application will be rejected.

There are various student visas - Students - Visas & Immigration and eligibility requirements for those to be granted and first thing required is acceptance into an approved course.
To pursue full assessment it sounds like you'll need to see if there is an approved course that matches the Gap Training Vetassess have indicated is required and in Australia a TAFE College may have courses.

Have Vetassess indicated the training must be done in Australia for it will likely be a lot cheaper for you to do it in India.





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Dear wanderer,

Thanks for the reply. VETASSESS conducted practical assessment in INDIA and issued me OTSR against my qualification ASCO 4312 11 , for migration purpose and I submitted it along with my 176 application. And also I received state sponsorship from Victoria State and got IELTS score 6 in each . I have submitted all the above to migration department on 1APR 2010.

The problem is the OTSR says that I have to undertake some gap training in some areas ( eg..OH&S, Australian wiring standards...160hrs) which can not be done in INDIA.

I contacted VETASSESS in this regard and they replied me that I have to do the training once I arrive in Australia.. My confusion is whether I have to wait till I arrive in Australia as migrant or is there any chance to complete the training as student/ apprentice while my application is in process, and what are the visa options available for me?

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Dear wanderer,

Thanks for the reply. VETASSESS conducted practical assessment in INDIA and issued me OTSR against my qualification ASCO 4312 11 , for migration purpose and I submitted it along with my 176 application. And also I received state sponsorship from Victoria State and got IELTS score 6 in each . I have submitted all the above to migration department on 1APR 2010.

The problem is the OTSR says that I have to undertake some gap training in some areas ( eg..OH&S, Australian wiring standards...160hrs) which can not be done in INDIA.

I contacted VETASSESS in this regard and they replied me that I have to do the training once I arrive in Australia.. My confusion is whether I have to wait till I arrive in Australia as migrant or is there any chance to complete the training as student/ apprentice while my application is in process, and what are the visa options available for me?

regards

Sateesh
OK, that is more understandable and though Vetassess refer to it as gap training, it is more about doing what you need to do to get fully licensed.
If you have a look at Refrigeration and Air-conditioning Mechanic 4312-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information you'll see that the refrigeration and airconditioning mechanic trade in Australia also requires electrical work licensing, possibly the same in India and hence the need for mechanics already with electrical training from abroad to do the Australian Wiring Standards training as for electricians also.

It can only be done in Australia and I do not really think it would be too easily achieved to line anything like an apprenticeship to do it while your 176 is being done.
You could check the requirements for the electrical training with the ESV and though I think you may find student visas have a minimum length of course requirement possibly greater than the Electrical Wiring, you could possibly find it cheaper to get a tourist visa for you are allowed to do study on tourist visas.
With your airfares and accommodation, possibly expensive fees because you would be classed as an international student, it would be a relatively expensive way of doing it.
Any OH&S requirement will possibly be a state by state requirement but you need to check the ARC site, also linked on Refrigeration and Air-conditioning Mechanic 4312-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information for like electricians, there will be a requirement to work under supervision for a year to get a full independent licence.

It can all be an onerous route to immigration as you'll have to secure employment in a supervised situation.





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Hi ,

I am new to the forum. I applied for 176 visa on 1 Apr 2010(for Victoria state) as refrigeration and air conditioning mechanic from India.

I received Offshore Technical Skills Record from VETASSESS and need to complete gap training to receive full qualification.

As the visa process may take long time I wish to travel to australia as student / apprentice to complete gap training and return to India , so that I can find an employer.

Is it possible to get a visa to complete the training while my 176 application is under processing?

Is there any one who completed this training?
what are the cost and duration of this training?

Please give me some advice

sateesh
Hi,
I just joined this forum behalf of my cousin. He has applied for the skill assessment of Refrigaration Mechanic in 2008.He got his papaer qualification done and paid the $1600 to VETASSESS in 2008 to to the practical test in Sr Lanka. He still waiting to do the practical test and finally got a date to do the practical test in August 2010.
He is very nervous and would like to know how this test like.
What are the qustions they asked from you?
Is it a writing questions?
How long it took>
How are the examiners friendly or scary/

Please give did you find the day like

thanks a lot

regards
kusum


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Hi,
I just joined this forum behalf of my cousin. He has applied for the skill assessment of Refrigaration Mechanic in 2008.He got his papaer qualification done and paid the $1600 to VETASSESS in 2008 to to the practical test in Sr Lanka. He still waiting to do the practical test and finally got a date to do the practical test in August 2010.
He is very nervous and would like to know how this test like.
What are the qustions they asked from you?
Is it a writing questions?
How long it took>
How are the examiners friendly or scary/

Please give did you find the day like

thanks a lot

regards
kusum
Hi kusam,

I attended vetassess practical exam in Mumbai. I reported by 7:30 AM at the exam venue. There were another 5 candidates . Our examiner was from Swan Tafe and kind to all of us. We were given five tasks and some oral questions.

Task 1: To complete a copper pipe line given in the diagram . It consisted of flaring , swaging , fixing unions& flare nuts and one brazing . This is easy for a real technician with hands on experience in this trade.

Task 2 : To find the problem in a split air conditioner wiring.

Task 3: To find the problem with a single/three phase motor.( like seized rotor, burnt winding ...)

Task 4 : To locate the gas leakage in small ice machine . i.e. checking leakages at joints, measuring suction pressure. Later to recovering the gas in to the cylinder using gas recovery machine. Then fixing leak ( to tighten the joints or brazing). Again to recharge the system with gas after doing proper vacuum. Take readings of suction pressures, weight of gas before recovery and amount of gas charged.

Task 5: To connect the plugs and cards. To disconnect and reconnect the wiring of a single / three phase motor by following safety precautions, like to switch off the mains , using a dummy fuse , attaching danger tags to mains etc....

There were questions about theory like what is super heat , boiling point and questions about insulation tester, safety switches etc.
.
My overall opinion is the exam is not tough for a technician with
experience, but don't take the exam easy. The tools were provided by examiner but I used my own tools like multimeter, clamp meter, tube cutter, insulation tester etc..

Advice your cousin to wear overalls & work shoes on that day and ask him to keep oh&s rules in mind and there is no need to get nervous about the exam.. Convey my best wishes to your cousin.


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Thank you so much

Dear Sateesh,
I like to thank you so much for your reply. I will send how my cousing go with the test.
I like to this Blog the service they provide to people like us to get informations

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Hi kusam,

I attended vetassess practical exam in Mumbai. I reported by 7:30 AM at the exam venue. There were another 5 candidates . Our examiner was from Swan Tafe and kind to all of us. We were given five tasks and some oral questions.

Task 1: To complete a copper pipe line given in the diagram . It consisted of flaring , swaging , fixing unions& flare nuts and one brazing . This is easy for a real technician with hands on experience in this trade.

Task 2 : To find the problem in a split air conditioner wiring.

Task 3: To find the problem with a single/three phase motor.( like seized rotor, burnt winding ...)

Task 4 : To locate the gas leakage in small ice machine . i.e. checking leakages at joints, measuring suction pressure. Later to recovering the gas in to the cylinder using gas recovery machine. Then fixing leak ( to tighten the joints or brazing). Again to recharge the system with gas after doing proper vacuum. Take readings of suction pressures, weight of gas before recovery and amount of gas charged.

Task 5: To connect the plugs and cards. To disconnect and reconnect the wiring of a single / three phase motor by following safety precautions, like to switch off the mains , using a dummy fuse , attaching danger tags to mains etc....

There were questions about theory like what is super heat , boiling point and questions about insulation tester, safety switches etc.
.
My overall opinion is the exam is not tough for a technician with
experience, but don't take the exam easy. The tools were provided by examiner but I used my own tools like multimeter, clamp meter, tube cutter, insulation tester etc..

Advice your cousin to wear overalls & work shoes on that day and ask him to keep oh&s rules in mind and there is no need to get nervous about the exam.. Convey my best wishes to your cousin.


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Hi Sateesh,

apparently VETASSESS going to postpone the test in Sri Lanka again for 4th time. The only option for my cosin is to go to Mumbai. We are not sure whether he can take tools in the plane.
Can you please tell what are the essential tools that my cousin has to take with him?

And also the address of the test centre in Mumbai.

I really appreciate yur help and thanks to the Forum. Without this we cannot get any idea about these things

Thanks
Kusum


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Hi Sateesh,

Looks like VETASSESS going to postpone the assessment in Sri Lanka again.
Only option is to go and do the test in Mumbai? We are not sure whether he is allowed to take tools in plane. What do you think the essential tools he should take.

What is test Centre address please?

I appreciate your reply?

Thanks to the Forum without this we are confused and lost

God Bless

Kusum


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Hi Sateesh,

Looks like VETASSESS going to postpone the assessment in Sri Lanka again.
Only option is to go and do the test in Mumbai? We are not sure whether he is allowed to take tools in plane. What do you think the essential tools he should take.

What is test Centre address please?

I appreciate your reply?

Thanks to the Forum without this we are confused and lost

God Bless

Kusum
Just in case Sateesh is not about Kusum, VETASSESStesting can be a painful process besides the expense but to keep that to a minimum they probably need so many people for testing at the one time.
If you email back the people who are advising re testing and ask about need for tools, I'd expect where they conduct tests will be somewhere like a college and tools may be available.
If not and they can advise of the college, perhaps the college will know of some local companies where tools could be borrowed from and so dave having to take them in the plane, but then as long as they are very clean with no oil or other inflamable residue, some tools should be able to go as luggage, but check with the airline.





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