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Old 01-01-2014, 07:20 AM
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I am an Australian citizen, I recently married my long standing Thai girlfriend here in Thailand then applied and she was granted a 12 month multi entry visa for Australia. My question is.. Does she need to buy a return ticket to Australia when we visit in the New Year? It is our intention to apply for permanent visa after we have settled and thus the need for a return ticket in our case is not required.

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If it is your girlfriend's "intention" to come to Australia on a visitor's visa and then to apply for another visa or permanent residency, she may have issues with the "genuine visitor" requirements and be refused entry to Australia. She may also have a "no further stay" condition on her visitor visa, which will prevent her from making any further visa applications while in Australia. I would definitely recommend that she has a return or onward ticket every time she travels to Australia on a visitor visa.I would also recommend that you thoroughly investigate the various pathways towards permanent residency first or seek some professional guidance.

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thanks for your reply, actually we are legally married


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Old 01-01-2014, 10:12 AM
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thanks for your reply, actually we are legally married
I apologise; I should have noticed that, as you clearly stated it in your post.

However, being married does not give your wife any special privileges as far as immigration goes. Just make sure you are aware of all the correct procedures and potential issues.

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I apologise; I should have noticed that, as you clearly stated it in your post.

However, being married does not give your wife any special privileges as far as immigration goes. Just make sure you are aware of all the correct procedures and potential issues.
again thank you for your reply, I am also well aware that being married with regard to visa is very little difference..


I only wanted to know about the exit ticket as I cannot find anything about officially on the DIMA or (what ever they call themselves these days) web site.

Further her visa has no conditions other than no work etc etc but can be extended or changed if we want.


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Old 01-01-2014, 10:23 AM
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They call themselves DIBP nowadays. There is no legal requirement to have a return ticket. However, it is up to immigration at the airport to assess if your wife is a "genuine visitor". Arriving without a return or onward ticket and/or sufficient funds of her own could raise questions about her intentions.

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If your wife has a visa already and comes with you to Australia there is no need for a return ticket, as the visa is already granted.

My wife (who is Thai) came out a few times without a return ticket, as we didn't have a fixed return date and never had any issues

There is a very very very small chance she may be questioned at entry into Australia about not having a return ticket, but highly unlikely if you are with her, and not enough really to deny entry on its own.

If she has a no further stay condition then nothing is stopping you from applying for a partner visa while in Australia and getting a bridging visa for her to stay until the partner visa decision is made.

Also if coming with you, have her go through the Australian Passport holders queue with you.

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I would get a return ticket to be on the safe side. It does not matter if the tourist visa has been approved or not for your wife. If they believe that your wife is not a genuine tourist they can cancel her tourist visa and she will be on the next plane home. Watch border security ... it feels like they are cancelling tourist visa's almost every episode.

Immigration may even question you or your wife to why you have not applied for a partner visa. If they suspect that you are going to apply for one onshore, therefore not being a genuine tourist, they can cancel your wife's visa.

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A really BIG thank you to the members that have replied, as you all know this whilst seeming easy has some very grey areas perhaps I should have put extra info in the original post.
I really just didn't want to bore everyone with all the details and sound like a complete knob, having said that I can already see that this forum is very unlike what I am use to
( thaivisa ) where the info is mostly distorted and the vitriol/misinformation is quite amazing.
I will try to make this short..

We met during a business trip 5 years ago, we dated after a year, she has 2 degrees and an MBA, until we married in November 2013 she was a manager at an international company, she has had 2 previous 12 month multi entry Aust visas, the first having restrictions the other two no restrictions except the NON work thing. I have lived in Thailand with her for 4 years, she worked and I retired ( 45 ) she funded her way as I did mine, her work was stressful so I suggested she stopped and I would support her.
Our plans were to come to Australia and we would travel, see how she liked it and if she did then apply for temp/perm visa. I must admit when assisting her in filling out the tourist ap I did spare a thought with regard to was this purely a tourist application as I know that it must be, I was also confused how people must sometimes get a tourist visa then change for a spouse visa as I also know they can be applied for both off and onshore albeit quite more expensive doing in Australia ( perhaps someone can explain why as I cannot understand that part either ) anyway when we applied for her tourist visa we really thought we would just go to travel for awhile but since sitting down thinking about things it seems that it would be good long term if she could get residency, we also plan to have a child early next year and I would prefer the birth to be in Australia if possible..
Whilst I do not need to work I am rather bored here and I would like to work again in Australia..

So.... we have 2 options the way I see it.

Apply here in Thailand ( cheaper but have to wait not sure how long )

Apply in Australia get a bridging visa then hopefully the other two later...

I know she cannot work whilst on tourist and bridging but I believe she can work and thus also have Medicare once she is granted the Temp visa ( please correct me if wrong )

I do not want to do anything illegally and perhaps make her life difficult in the future, she is my wife and deserves to be secure in life..

If anyone has got this far, I thank you for the time you have spent reading this..

Happy New Year to All...


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I believe onshore applications are more expensive in order to encourage people to apply offshore rather than in Australia.

I think it is a good idea for your partner to come to Australia on a tourist visa to spend some time here, see how she likes it, meet your family and friends, etc. This is a totally legitimate use of a tourist visa.

It is also totally legitimate for her to apply for a spouse visa if she is in Australia on a valid visa without a "no further stay condition".

You don't apply for a bridging visa seperately. You apply for it (automatically) when you apply for an onshore partner visa. Your wife would be eligible for Medicare and (normally) have full work rights once her tourist visa expires and the bridging visa comes into effect.

An offshore application can take anywhere between 6 and 12 months. I suggest you make that initial trip to Australia with your wife first to check things out and go from there.

Hope this clears things up ?

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