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Old 01-07-2014, 12:02 AM
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Defacto visa 820 and Centrelink

Hi!

First of all happy new year to all of you!

I have got a few questions in regards the Defacto visa 820.

I have been living in Sydney for the last 9 months on a 457 visa. I came to Australia as I met my girlfriend when she was travelling overseas (she's Australian). During these first months we have been living separately but in a few months we will move in together.

She's 22 and from March on she will start her University studies. As she will be unemployed she will get around $450 fortnightly from Centrelink. In my case I will still be working and having my usual income.

Here it comes our doubt. If we move in together and after a year we apply for our Defacto visa, how does it impact to my girlfriend's centrelink benefit? My income is "high" ($65K base salary + $65K commission) so we would like to understand if the CentreLink would keep helping her, if it would be cut off or completely over.

Hope you can help us!

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Old 01-07-2014, 12:19 AM
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Hi!

First of all happy new year to all of you!

I have got a few questions in regards the Defacto visa 820.

I have been living in Sydney for the last 9 months on a 457 visa. I came to Australia as I met my girlfriend when she was travelling overseas (she's Australian). During these first months we have been living separately but in a few months we will move in together.

She's 22 and from March on she will start her University studies. As she will be unemployed she will get around $450 fortnightly from Centrelink. In my case I will still be working and having my usual income.

Here it comes our doubt. If we move in together and after a year we apply for our Defacto visa, how does it impact to my girlfriend's centrelink benefit? My income is "high" ($65K base salary + $65K commission) so we would like to understand if the CentreLink would keep helping her, if it would be cut off or completely over.

Hope you can help us!

Thanks!!
This page may help: Personal income test for ABSTUDY, Austudy and Youth Allowance

At the bottom of the page it reads that for Recipients with partners, "your payment will be reduced by 60 cents for every dollar your partner earns over the maximum amount. Your partner's maximum amount is determined by their circumstances".

I'm not familiar with this at all but I would think that your girlfriend's Centrelink benefits would be affected as soon as you move in together (and become 'partners'), and not only upon applying for the partner visa. When you start receiving Centrelink benefits you are under an obligation to advise of changes to your circumstances (including whether you have a 'partner'). Hope this helps.

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Old 01-07-2014, 12:30 AM
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I suggest you give Centrelink a call to find out the answer.


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Old 01-08-2014, 10:27 PM
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Centrelink will generally send you a questionnaire about your relationship and determine whether you are partners based on that. They don't require you to wait a year, it counts from as soon as you move in together.

You'll need to declare your relationship to them for a couple of reasons - first, there's a specific category on the partner visa application for 'declaring your relationship to government bodies', so it will look weird if you haven't declared your relationship to Centrelink. Second, if Centrelink find out (which they may well do as departments share information) she will have to pay back her overpayment.

It's annoying,but I'm afraid there's really no way around it.


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There is no way you will get any payment with that large income, unless you have a baby or 2. You'll have to find another way to get your visa fee back.
You can check everything like that here https://www.centrelink.gov.au/RateEs...mbinedStart.do

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Old 01-09-2014, 07:59 AM
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Hi!

Thank you all for your replies Looks like she won't get anything if we register as defacto... Unlucky!!


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NO NOT UNLUCKY....you earn enough to support your fiancÚ so do so n not bludge on the Govt....wonder how much Spain would support you in this regard?

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Chill out, hopefully fiancÚ someday


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Old 01-09-2014, 09:34 AM
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Yeah/nah. I think $130,000 is quite enough for a couple to live on quite comfortably without having to even consider any form of government handout.

The general sentiment of the OP makes me feel quite uneasy.

First world problems.


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Old 01-09-2014, 10:40 AM
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Yeah, so I'm sure we'd all love to be on $130,000, at the same time it's a bit rough that as soon as you move in together, you're expected to fully support your partner, regardless of your actual situation, and you certainly don't get any tax breaks for doing so. It's also particularly rough when another government department (DIBP) will tell your girlfriend that she has financial responsibility for you.

I'm sure the OP and his gf will survive on that money, but that doesn't mean he's not entitled to ask.


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