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Old 01-19-2014, 12:19 AM
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But we are married how can we get married again in australia?

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Old 01-19-2014, 12:28 AM
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I don't think they ca no apply for pmv as they are already married. U should get wills and superannuation and life insurance with each other. Don't lodge u til u have more evidence. If he us high risk country they will reject u on that amount of evidence


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U wont need the 12 months living together if ur married. But you will still need the financial evidence and the other stuff


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You won't want to hear this but it's just not enough information. You don't need to prove 12 months living together since you are married (but you'll need to prove your marriage).

The best way for me to get evidence of Facebook messages, yahoo messages etc was just to use my iPad to take screenshots of sections of conversations - 3 or 4 screenshots per month. Can you obtain phone records showing you kept in contact via phone?

Have you sent any gifts to each other or cards, letters etc? My husband ordered flowers and valentines day and birthday gifts online for me and we printed out a copy of both the online receipts as well as his credit card statement.

Do you have correspondence from family and friends addressed to both of you? You can send copies of the envelopes showing that you and your husband are recognized as a couple socially. Wedding cards from friends addressed to both of you? Even emails sent between you and another person (or your husband and another person) showing acknowledgement of your relationship by others?

Have you ever sent money to him, or he to you? Any proof of that via bank statements, western union transfer or proof of wire transfer?

Photographs of the two of you with other people and in different contexts?

Is your husband listed as Next of Kin on your medical documents?

Is your relationship declared to government bodies such as centrelink?

Is husband listed as an approved driver for your car insurance or listed as a beneficiary for your superannuation or life insurance or in your will?

At this point you need more evidence and if sounds like you might need to seriously think outside the box. People from high risk countries do get rejected quite frequently and often their applications contain much more evidence than you have listed.

Good luck! I'm sure others will have some more ideas for evidence that you can use.

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More suggestions: when you visited him those two times did you stay in a hotel? If so, invoices usually list both names and if you paid via credit or debit card then can cross match charge to the hotel. Same goes for events, concerts, shows etc where tickets are required.

Do you have a copy of your wedding invitation? You could include that (I doubt it will count for a whole lot, but it's something extra). Even better if you have any invitations to other people's weddings addressed to both of you.

I'll list what we included in our application, although keep in mind that we are still waiting for our visa to be granted and my husband is from the USA, which is a low risk country.

We included all the usual documents such as proof of birth, citizenship, income, marriage and proof of our previous divorces.

Included my university degree and proof of enrolment for my current degree. We also included proof of hubby's employability (college degree, 15 years of military service and assorted short courses etc).

As for evidence of relationship:

Our statements - signed and witnessed by JP.

- Screenshots of Facebook messages
- Screenshot of filtered email inbox (his only since my email was hacked and shut down).
- Copy of our Facebook/us page showing our interaction, mutual friends etc on Facebook.
-Copies of online invoices with corresponding credit card charges for gifts we ordered and had sent to each other.
- Copy of receipt for gifts hubby had sent to me from Disney World when he spent the summer with his daughter of previous marriage.
- Copies of the envelopes that cards came in addressed to both of us from family and friends (5 in total - 3 wedding and 2 Christmas cards).
-Copy of shipping information when hubby had his personal belongings shipped to our address in Australia.
-A copy of our joint bank account and selected sections of bank statements showing usage of our account for over 6 months and showing that we use it for all household expenses (rent, groceries, fuel, bills, household, and childcare) and that we both contribute to the account.
-Copies of evidence that hubby used part of his severance pay to purchase us a new vehicle that we needed.
-Around 8 photographs showing the both of us with other people, including 2 of our wedding.
-Proof of payment of honeymoon to New Zealand and copies of boarding passes as well as hotel welcome letter listing us as Mr and Mrs First Names & Surname.
-Copies of insurance listing both of us as protected persons and having joint ownership of our household contents.
-Copy of car insurance listing us both as approved drivers.
-Letter from centrelink stating that they are aware of our relationship.
-Letter from childcare and school stating that hubby is listed as emergency contact #2 and listed as "step-father".
-4 stat declarations from family and 2 from friends in Australia as well as declaration from hubby's parents and close friend in America.
-Proof of our current pregnancy and we are about to send them a copy of our ultrasound.

I think that's all. I wanted to get hubby on the lease but the real estate agent refuse to do so until he has his partner visa *sigh*. They also refused to write a letter stating that fact because they didn't want to put in writing that they are aware of a "non-approved" occupant living in the house (legal stuff I guess). We just wrote a statement outlining those facts and got it witnessed by JP.

Forgot to add that we also included copies of husbands Australian drivers licence listing our address as his residential. Also a screenshot of the fact that he changed his eBay and Amazon shipping address (we know it's not much but every bit helps).

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Hi Star Hunter,

Thanks you your advise, it is very hard for us to have join bank accounts, lease,ownership of car etc as he hasn't been to Australia at all.
I have made him a beneficiary of my superannuation and added him to my health insurance. I don't know what else to do, we've really never stayed at hotels, as I have family everywhere back in my country, if we went anywhere we would stay at my aunts place. I have also said I'm in the process of starting my own cleaning/housekeeping business and yeah he can come here and work with me.

Also do you know if I could get anything from centrelink to show that he is my husband as I have told centrelink we are married and have given them all his details.

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Old 01-21-2014, 11:31 PM
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RE: centrelink. My husband and I just went into our local office and spoke to a customer service representative and explained that we needed a letter for immigration confirming that centrelink are aware of our relationship.

She wrote a short letter stating that centrelink are aware of our relationship and that my husband has been declared as my spouse. She signed it and then stamped it using the official centrelink stamp.

You might even be able to ring up and have a letter sent out to you. It was actually really easy and simple and it's great evidence I would definitely request a letter to add to your application.

Do you have emails or messages between you and your aunt discussing your relationship or organising for the two of you to stay?

I'm not really sure what else you can do. You can try and apply with the evidence that you have, I think it's possible that you could get approved. Definitely get copies of your health insurance and superannuation statements to prove he has been listed on those. The letter from centrelink will definitely help I think.

Good luck! It's a ridiculously daunting (but necessary) process and I feel your pain.

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Extra payment for 820 after 300?

So you do have to pay extra after marriage to be granted the Partner visa. Well that changes my plans

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Old 01-22-2014, 03:05 AM
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You do, but it still ends up being cheaper than just applying for the 820 by itself. You pay an additional $1145 when you apply for your 820 after your marriage on your 300.

$3085 (PMV cost) + $1145 (820 cost after PMV) = $4230.

820 cost for people NOT applying from a PMV: $4575.

Original Nationality: US
Visa #1: PMV (300) through Washington, D.C
Applied: April 2013.
Visa Granted: January 2014.
Visa #2: Subclass 820 (From PMV).
Applied: End of April 2014.
Visa Granted: Early July 2014.
Visa #3: 801 (PR)
Eligibility Date: End of April 2016 (Applied a month prior).
PR Granted: Early April 2017.

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Old 01-22-2014, 03:07 AM
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Ah! I see. Thanks, I obviously wasn't reading properly.
Thank you

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