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Old 07-07-2010, 03:52 PM
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How many Visas can be applied for?

My fiancee and I will be married in China in September and our plan is to apply for the spouse visa and then apply for a tourist visa so she can travel back with me for a few months while we wait for the spouse visa. However I was told by her friend that she can only apply for one visa at any given time. Can anyone confirm this? She comes form BeiHai in GuangXi which is an autonomous region.


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My fiancee and I will be married in China in September and our plan is to apply for the spouse visa and then apply for a tourist visa so she can travel back with me for a few months while we wait for the spouse visa. However I was told by her friend that she can only apply for one visa at any given time. Can anyone confirm this? She comes form BeiHai in GuangXi which is an autonomous region.
You can only ever hold one visa but you can also have an application in whilst you do hold one.
With the spouse visa you ought to let the Immi people know of your travel intent so as they know what to do in regard to arranging an interview if needed and you can do that with a Form1022.





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You can only ever hold one visa but you can also have an application in whilst you do hold one.
With the spouse visa you ought to let the Immi people know of your travel intent so as they know what to do in regard to arranging an interview if needed and you can do that with a Form1022.
That's what I thought, she could place the spouse visa application which will take upwards of 20 weeks and in the meantime apply for a tourist visa and use that for 3 months. Would there be a problem if the spouse visa was approved while the tourist visa was still active? And have you heard of any law stating that you can only apply for one visa at any given time in this region?

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That's what I thought, she could place the spouse visa application which will take upwards of 20 weeks and in the meantime apply for a tourist visa and use that for 3 months. Would there be a problem if the spouse visa was approved while the tourist visa was still active? And have you heard of any law stating that you can only apply for one visa at any given time in this region?

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I've read once of a person questioning whether more than one visa of the same class could be applied for simultaneously but Immi regulations are not regionally prescriptive other than there being HR/LR classified countries and then some situations like ETAs defaulting to eVisas and that is only because of reciprocal conditions and there could be other exceptions but generally it's one set of regulations fits all.
There's another chap [ FrankSS ] who has posted in the news/current events section from memory re length of time etc. and he related about the hard time of it his wife was having or to have and so there could be situations where Immi people may have suspicions and refuse to grant a tourist visa.
Because it is an offshore visa your wife will apply for, she needs to be offshore [ outside of Australia ] to have it granted and so if she is still in Australia with the tourist visa active, the spouse visa would not be granted and if they tried the system would reject it [ and that could cause you some grief ] , so the reason for making sure the advice is with Immi people.
Though Immi are not obliged to advise people a visa is ready for granting, what in practice seems to happen in Australia is that on they being aware someone who is awaiting granting of an offshore visa is in Australia, Immi will contact them to advise a final decision is imminent and that the applicant needs to make arrangements to leave and advise Immi of date so as Immi will then be able to grant them the visa and they can return - Bureacracy at its best I know but when you have regulations enshrined in legislation, they are hard to change unless of course you have the Minister and his staff driving the change.
It does not mean your wife needs to go back to China but just to take a trip for a few days to nearest destination for you outside of Oz.





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I've read once of a person questioning whether more than one visa of the same class could be applied for simultaneously but Immi regulations are not regionally prescriptive other than there being HR/LR classified countries and then some situations like ETAs defaulting to eVisas and that is only because of reciprocal conditions and there could be other exceptions but generally it's one set of regulations fits all.
There's another chap [ FrankSS ] who has posted in the news/current events section from memory re length of time etc. and he related about the hard time of it his wife was having or to have and so there could be situations where Immi people may have suspicions and refuse to grant a tourist visa.
Because it is an offshore visa your wife will apply for, she needs to be offshore [ outside of Australia ] to have it granted and so if she is still in Australia with the tourist visa active, the spouse visa would not be granted and if they tried the system would reject it [ and that could cause you some grief ] , so the reason for making sure the advice is with Immi people.
Though Immi are not obliged to advise people a visa is ready for granting, what in practice seems to happen in Australia is that on they being aware someone who is awaiting granting of an offshore visa is in Australia, Immi will contact them to advise a final decision is imminent and that the applicant needs to make arrangements to leave and advise Immi of date so as Immi will then be able to grant them the visa and they can return - Bureacracy at its best I know but when you have regulations enshrined in legislation, they are hard to change unless of course you have the Minister and his staff driving the change.
It does not mean your wife needs to go back to China but just to take a trip for a few days to nearest destination for you outside of Oz.
Hi Wanderer,

Thanks for your reply, I know it's beena while since I have been back. I have been looking about and have read some of FrankSS's posts and I feel his frustrations. We can't place our application in until September, and then our wait starts.

I really can't understand why a temporary tourist like visa can't be granted so spouses and prospective spouses can be together for the processing period. Even if it were a requirement to check in every week or month to say we are still together or yes we are still where we said we would be. It would be a much more humane way to treat people who are in love and just want to be together. It only takes 5 to 7 days to process a tourist visa, so why not allow a similar visa for the duration of a spouse visa processing?

I spoke to the Australian Consulate in GuangZhou and the timeline is 6 to 10 months now. I am struggling with 3 months and my fiancee is too.

Here's hoping we have everything in order and get a good case officer.


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There are the tourist visas there to be used Utha and though there could be restrictions with some countries, there is nothing to stop people who have applied for partner/PMV visas to apply for a tourist visa as an interim measure if it suits.
As for making additional special visas, you have to also realise that Immi are dealing with hundreds of thousands of visas annually and so there does need to be a limit and some uniformity to have a consistency of application.





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There are the tourist visas there to be used Utha and though there could be restrictions with some countries, there is nothing to stop people who have applied for partner/PMV visas to apply for a tourist visa as an interim measure if it suits.
As for making additional special visas, you have to also realise that Immi are dealing with hundreds of thousands of visas annually and so there does need to be a limit and some uniformity to have a consistency of application.
Yeah I understand some of the complexities. It's just very frustrating and heartbreaking when we are forced to be apart like this. And being from a HR country makes it even more painful because of the extra wait we have to endure. Genuine applicants like us are treated like we are the guilty people that will overstay.

Yes we will be applying for a 6 month tourist visa, but the likelihood of getting more than a 3 month visa is slim. And because of the HR status she will get a no further stay thrown in for good measure.


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Yeah I understand some of the complexities. It's just very frustrating and heartbreaking when we are forced to be apart like this. And being from a HR country makes it even more painful because of the extra wait we have to endure. Genuine applicants like us are treated like we are the guilty people that will overstay.

Yes we will be applying for a 6 month tourist visa, but the likelihood of getting more than a 3 month visa is slim. And because of the HR status she will get a no further stay thrown in for good measure.
It seems with some visa processing times that though both China and India are HR, any additional checking is being done fairly promptly.
Variations in processing times can also be for a number of other reasons and it is not just HR countries that have a NFS condition applied to tourist visas but all countries, the exception being ETAs.
If someone from the UK, Canada, US etc. gets a six months tourist visa it'll likely have a NFS.





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It seems with some visa processing times that though both China and India are HR, any additional checking is being done fairly promptly.
Variations in processing times can also be for a number of other reasons and it is not just HR countries that have a NFS condition applied to tourist visas but all countries, the exception being ETAs.
If someone from the UK, Canada, US etc. gets a six months tourist visa it'll likely have a NFS.
Thanks Wanderer, I never realised that. I can tell my stress levels are rising and I'm not seeing the forest for the trees. It's nice to get some unbiased views on the process.

I certainly don't hold any grudge against the immigration department, I know they have an important job to do and they are continually under the pump. I suppose what is being said in the media about possible immigration changes are bothering me a bit. I certainly don't know the ramifications of what the pollies are on about but talk of reducing numbers scares me. The last thing I want to happen is our application rejected because of a numbers issue. Another 12 months to wait would be sheer hell.

Once we get our visa application in I will be certainly posting our time line up. I certainly hope that ours is one of the fast ones.


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