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And Hannabelle, my comment was nothing to do with your posts and the value of a thread will be maintained by valuable contributions.

Have a read of Post #26 by Silent Sleeper, signed off with rant over and then what has been added prior to my post and you may get my drift.
I'll probably delete from #26 to mine when people get the message.





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Dear Wanderer,

I am some what a little taken back and hurt by your personal attack on my comment. Ok maybe i shouldnt have send Rant over at the end but that was what i was feeling at the time(i have since removed this). I do believe that this is a public forum and people should be allowed to express their feelings and fustrations if they like. In fact going back through this thread most people have, yet i'm the first one you attack? dont you think thats a little unfair?

I came onto this forum to get advise and get to know other people in the same situation as i am in, to talk about our difficulties,stresses, excitements and successes etc. Not to get attacked for doing just that.

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If you happen to open your mind a little Silent Sleeper, you might just envisage just how ridiculous a statement you have made with
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so if 20 people get there application in today then they all get assigned a CO at the same time. but thats clearly not the case. Why say one thing and do another
I would just like to say that I am fully aware of the process having done enough research over the past 6 months into it. And I fully understand that they are an extremely busy department and have a lot of pressure on them. I was mearly using 20 an an example number, sorry for not calculating out the exact number for you, But i dont see a problem with what ive said to be honest. Also no one else seems to have a problem either, maybe im wrong. they can speak for themselves.
It was immigration that stated
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In order to ensure a fair and equitable outcome for all our clients we process applications in chronological order, that is, in the order in which they are received
So you think its wrong for someone who is waiting 7 months to get upset and fustrated when another person gets there's after a week or a month 6 months later?
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I posted on the aspect of changing tasks earlier in the thread but it would not surprise me if ranters and whingers choose just to rant and whinge rather than read and think of other than their own gripe.
I have read back through this thread and I cannot find your reference

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This type of thread is becoming like a festering sore and I'll leave it here for a short time before relocating it.
If anyone has an actual pertinent visa query I suggest they start their own thread.
I had reason to believe that this was a forum not just a Q and A place. maybe you should change the name of this place to show just that.

Like Hannabelle i appreciate the advise and knowledge you provide on this site. this is a pretty innocent thread and i feel your attack was unjustified. I am fully aware that you are going to delete this post as im not the first person to dissagree with you and you have removed their posts too. but the removal of my 1st post is abuse of your power as a moderator.

Thank you for making myself(and others) feel very unwelcome to this Forum, you may find others will now not want to share their feeling because they will not want to offend you either.
From now on I will no longer share my opinions or advice to others and will lurk in the background. If anyone wants to chat to me please PM.

Hannabelle i am so sorry for causeing such angst on your thread, hope you have an answer soon.

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Dear Wanderer,

I am some what a little taken back and hurt by your personal attack on my comment. Ok maybe i shouldnt have send Rant over at the end but that was what i was feeling at the time(i have since removed this). I do believe that this is a public forum and people should be allowed to express their feelings and fustrations if they like. In fact going back through this thread most people have, yet i'm the first one you attack? dont you think thats a little unfair?

I came onto this forum to get advise and get to know other people in the same situation as i am in, to talk about our difficulties,stresses, excitements and successes etc. Not to get attacked for doing just that.


I would just like to say that I am fully aware of the process having done enough research over the past 6 months into it. And I fully understand that they are an extremely busy department and have a lot of pressure on them. I was mearly using 20 an an example number, sorry for not calculating out the exact number for you, But i dont see a problem with what ive said to be honest. Also no one else seems to have a problem either, maybe im wrong. they can speak for themselves.
It was immigration that stated
So you think its wrong for someone who is waiting 7 months to get upset and fustrated when another person gets there's after a week or a month 6 months later?

I have read back through this thread and I cannot find your reference


I had reason to believe that this was a forum not just a Q and A place. maybe you should change the name of this place to show just that.

Like Hannabelle i appreciate the advise and knowledge you provide on this site. this is a pretty innocent thread and i feel your attack was unjustified. I am fully aware that you are going to delete this post as im not the first person to dissagree with you and you have removed their posts too. but the removal of my 1st post is abuse of your power as a moderator.

Thank you for making myself(and others) feel very unwelcome to this Forum, you may find others will now not want to share their feeling because they will not want to offend you either.
From now on I will no longer share my opinions or advice to others and will lurk in the background. If anyone wants to chat to me please PM.

Hannabelle i am so sorry for causeing such angst on your thread, hope you have an answer soon.

Claire
Dear wanderer and silent sleeper

its probably best for me not to comment on any of it but i feel the urge to speak my opinion. my apology in advance if my post is inappropriate but i can see where two of you coming from. Wanderer as the moderator have a full authority to remove any inappropriate post or something that according to their standard categorized as too much and so far he has been the most helpful person in this moderator sharing his knowdlege and opinions and you do know that we really appreciated your help but i can understand silent sleeper coming from.

its the frustration i think, my heart stop beating for a few seconds every time i read someone had their visa already thou they just submitted their applications a month before even a week before makes me wonder if there are something wrong with my applications. I am happy for them really but i just don't understand how they get their visa a lot faster than us whilst no one even get back to us about our applications. in my case no one even able to tell me if i had a case officer,i don't even know who to call for help.i will be a lot more patient and calm if only everyone get their visa in order based on the date applications (but of course its not about what we want or what i want) or if an immigration officer told me that there will be a delay in granting my visa.then at least i know its already in the process and i will be happily waiting for them to contact me again.

i don't know about any other applicants but i probably in one of the worst situations. i have been sitting here doing nothing for months, i feel like my brain is shut down. i forgot every single thing i learned back in the university as i am not allowed to work and apply what ive learned back at uni and at the same time, my mom hasn't been in her best health condition for the last 5 months. she had stroke and slowly recovering but every month i seemed to received news from my dad that mom have to be hospitalized for a different illness (probably complication for her illness which diabetes and stroke) i had a nightmare about her almost every night but i couldn't even go home to see her, my uncle passed away a week ago, i couldn't even go home at all. all i was doing is staying at home because i can't even drive around, i don't even have a social life anymore. i am 25 years old who feels like i don't have a life and lives off my parents money, i don't have a job, no saving at all as ive been busy studying for the last 5 years and i feel like i've been the worst daughter because i never be there for my mother no more. i want to reapply for bridging visa B but then i don't want it to affect my applications, we want to start saving for wedding but i am not even allowed to work, i want to ask them to waive no work restriction from my visa but then i don't want them to think that my partner can't take care of me financially (an immigration agent told me you can ask them to waive the no working restriction on your visa only if you have a financial hardship)i don't really know who to complain except to my partner and my friends and to be truthful, i am trying so hard to sucking it in and stay strong all the time but personally, knowing there are any other people in the same boat with me and sharing what i feel makes me feel a lot better.
people say its easy to say but so hard to do, that is probably right because no matter how much people understand what we feel, they won't understand it better than those who suffered because of it.

Once again, my sincere apology if my post is inappropriate and i am totally understand if this post got deleted.

cheers


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Dear Wanderer,

I am some what a little taken back and hurt by your personal attack on my comment. Ok maybe i shouldnt have send Rant over at the end but that was what i was feeling at the time(i have since removed this). I do believe that this is a public forum and people should be allowed to express their feelings and fustrations if they like. In fact going back through this thread most people have, yet i'm the first one you attack? dont you think thats a little unfair?

I came onto this forum to get advise and get to know other people in the same situation as i am in, to talk about our difficulties,stresses, excitements and successes etc. Not to get attacked for doing just that.


I would just like to say that I am fully aware of the process having done enough research over the past 6 months into it. And I fully understand that they are an extremely busy department and have a lot of pressure on them. I was mearly using 20 an an example number, sorry for not calculating out the exact number for you, But i dont see a problem with what ive said to be honest. Also no one else seems to have a problem either, maybe im wrong. they can speak for themselves.
It was immigration that stated
So you think its wrong for someone who is waiting 7 months to get upset and fustrated when another person gets there's after a week or a month 6 months later?

I have read back through this thread and I cannot find your reference


I had reason to believe that this was a forum not just a Q and A place. maybe you should change the name of this place to show just that.

Like Hannabelle i appreciate the advise and knowledge you provide on this site. this is a pretty innocent thread and i feel your attack was unjustified. I am fully aware that you are going to delete this post as im not the first person to dissagree with you and you have removed their posts too. but the removal of my 1st post is abuse of your power as a moderator.

Thank you for making myself(and others) feel very unwelcome to this Forum, you may find others will now not want to share their feeling because they will not want to offend you either.
From now on I will no longer share my opinions or advice to others and will lurk in the background. If anyone wants to chat to me please PM.

Hannabelle i am so sorry for causeing such angst on your thread, hope you have an answer soon.

Claire
You thinking about your post Claire and what I have said is great.
Yes, it is a forum and a one that a lot of people are learning from oneanother on continuously.

It is not that you actually signed off with rant over but the nature of the post which was essentially an attack on the Immi process, people being free to vent their frustrations generally but yes I have drawn a line in the sand for when such comments do get made, I know from experience that it usually only gets worse and so you can end up getting posts which are not really going to be so helpful and in fact can turn people away.
If you feel otherwise that is fine.

As for the process and it is not just the twenty, you with your frustration and research may know that though it is the same application form that is used, applications are not going to be identical in content nor evidence and they are going to go to different COs whose workload at any point in time could be very different for various reasons.
There are always going to be significant variations in processing times for all visas for various reasons, the ultra quick family turnarounds being more a very infrequent freak resulting from particular circumstances and not the norm.
My reference is at Post #5
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There's a few things happened in recent times that'll be affecting processing of visas.
1. Allocated or government budgetted number for last financial year was apparently actually being approached a couple of months prior to the end of the financial year from what it seemed with advice some applicants who have posted about it received.
Flow on from that was a hold being put on application processing then and thus something of a backlog to start the new year off.
2. At the same time, it is quite likely that to manage that situation, the word has gone out to pace the processing of applications so as the years budgetted number is spread evenly over the whole year and that'll mean effectively slowing processing.
There has been some indication of that with some information indicating longer times though at the same time there have been some processing times of what could be considered more normal and as always the odd very short processing time .
3. The other factor that could be affecting all visas across the department is that an influx of people arriving via people smugglers is continuing and that means a lot of resources get tied up in processing claims for asylum.
Some staff may have been assigned duties for that and less available for all the regular visas.
Immigration was also an issue discussed a bit during the election we have just had but that in itself has not changed budgetted numbers and processing times other than I would not be surprised if discussions have occurred at ministerial/department head levels re all applications to be more stringently examined.
As you can see Claire I have not deleted either of your posts [ as yet ] but yes, a whole heap of posts were at one time extracted from the time line thread as they detracted from the point of the time lime thread but I put them into a thread titled " Politics of Immigration " for want of a better title thought at the time.
That is probably where some of the posts of this thread could be better placed.





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Dear wanderer and silent sleeper

its probably best for me not to comment on any of it but i feel the urge to speak my opinion. my apology in advance if my post is inappropriate but i can see where two of you coming from. Wanderer as the moderator have a full authority to remove any inappropriate post or something that according to their standard categorized as too much and so far he has been the most helpful person in this moderator sharing his knowdlege and opinions and you do know that we really appreciated your help but i can understand silent sleeper coming from.

its the frustration i think, my heart stop beating for a few seconds every time i read someone had their visa already thou they just submitted their applications a month before even a week before makes me wonder if there are something wrong with my applications. I am happy for them really but i just don't understand how they get their visa a lot faster than us whilst no one even get back to us about our applications. in my case no one even able to tell me if i had a case officer,i don't even know who to call for help.i will be a lot more patient and calm if only everyone get their visa in order based on the date applications (but of course its not about what we want or what i want) or if an immigration officer told me that there will be a delay in granting my visa.then at least i know its already in the process and i will be happily waiting for them to contact me again.

i don't know about any other applicants but i probably in one of the worst situations. i have been sitting here doing nothing for months, i feel like my brain is shut down. i forgot every single thing i learned back in the university as i am not allowed to work and apply what ive learned back at uni and at the same time, my mom hasn't been in her best health condition for the last 5 months. she had stroke and slowly recovering but every month i seemed to received news from my dad that mom have to be hospitalized for a different illness (probably complication for her illness which diabetes and stroke) i had a nightmare about her almost every night but i couldn't even go home to see her, my uncle passed away a week ago, i couldn't even go home at all. all i was doing is staying at home because i can't even drive around, i don't even have a social life anymore. i am 25 years old who feels like i don't have a life and lives off my parents money, i don't have a job, no saving at all as ive been busy studying for the last 5 years and i feel like i've been the worst daughter because i never be there for my mother no more. i want to reapply for bridging visa B but then i don't want it to affect my applications, we want to start saving for wedding but i am not even allowed to work, i want to ask them to waive no work restriction from my visa but then i don't want them to think that my partner can't take care of me financially (an immigration agent told me you can ask them to waive the no working restriction on your visa only if you have a financial hardship)i don't really know who to complain except to my partner and my friends and to be truthful, i am trying so hard to sucking it in and stay strong all the time but personally, knowing there are any other people in the same boat with me and sharing what i feel makes me feel a lot better.
people say its easy to say but so hard to do, that is probably right because no matter how much people understand what we feel, they won't understand it better than those who suffered because of it.

Once again, my sincere apology if my post is inappropriate and i am totally understand if this post got deleted.

cheers
And I understand that you can be frustrated with the process of your visa Foxy and would rather not just be sitting around doing nothing and obviously would like to be visiting your mother.
I would suggest to you as follows:
Your partner's ability to sponsor you will be determined by his income and if he is already supporting you both, that is not likely to be an issue even if you see if you can get work rights.
You could perhaps use the angle of wanting to visit your mother but do not want to place extra financial burden on your partner nor detract from your savings for a wedding and the worse that can happen is a refusal of the request.
At the same time your mothers illness is a valid reason for you to get a Bridging Visa B and again that should not detract from the processing of your partner visa and I thought you had posted once about doing that or planning to.

I have posted above re the processing time variations and with many visas in the system, the ones that need more information supplied, checks made etc., a CO with many files under their processing is just going to use up additional time if at every step, contact was to be made with an applicant.

If you consider a COs file list as like the spokes of revolving wheel with files in order of receipt, so a new file will either get put in behind the last new one or in fact just ahead of the one they are currently working on and that may mean there are 50 in number or whatever to go through before that latest one gets attention.
So with each of the 50, there may be some new advice received and something is decided and/or happens and then it is on to the next and when the next new file is opened, a preliminary check is made to see whether it is complete etc. and in some cases it may be that an application is totally complete, there is no need for external checks, no doubt with the evidence provided and so perhaps even without an interview, a file may be forwarded on by the CO for immediate endorsement of approval.
There may also be the situation of COs on leave or otherwise absent that could see temporary delays or even a new/transferred in CO starting with a clean slate or all new heap of files on his wheel using the wheel spokes terminology and so that could account for some applications considered all complete and ready to approve being processed as above.
Even with those cases a section manager may want some checks made.
But if like most applications there is additional information required or checks to be made, that will be initiated and it'll be on with the next case.

People do get contacted at appropriate times re additional information requested, police and medical checks to be made etc. or if there is no need for anything, it could be a request to attend for an interview or send in your passport etc. and then there will be those for which external check are to be made and that is outside of the control of the Immigration department and so there is no point in a CO advising weekly or monthly, yes we are still waiting just like you.
The process is usually lengthy and wanting regular updates will just add to the length for everyone.

This is one of a few threads where people have expressed their frustrations and it is not the first time I have attempted to explain to people that visa applications and processing is not as straightforward as some would like and never will be for reasons I have explained.

If posters still want to express their frustration, that is fine but attacks on the system ought to be on the thread such as the Politics of Immigration one I mentioned and another one is called Visa Stress.
That way the threads of Visas & Immigration are kept informative and useful to all.





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dear wanderer,

this is my first time applying for partner visa so i don't fully understand of whats going on but basically i just want to know whats going on with my visa. i do understand there are thousand or maybe millions people applying for the same type of visa but my judgment was based on those who got given a case officer right away soon as they lodged their applications. its not the applicants fault at all of course but again its just a curiosity of why they got their case officer right away. i might be wrong, i might be right i don't know but forgive me if i am wrong.

yeah i got given bridging visa b and flew home 6 weeks ago and stayed for 2 weeks, but around 2 weeks ago my uncle passed away and not long after my mom got hospitalized again. i already planning to go home because mom was in the icu for 2 days but then i have to re-apply for bridging visa B again and i don't know if that will be a smart idea. my partner is around my age and unfortunately, he is just slowly starting his career so he doesn't make so much as yet. it is enough for us (plus my parents send me money when i ask them to) but i don't know what is the enough standard for the immigration so i can't take a risk asking them to waive no work restriction off my visa just in case.
like i said, having to face so much things all at once is not easy at all so if somehow when someone is frustrated and then they choose a wrong word or term for something when they write something, i personally think its understandable but might not be acceptable.

anyways, again, personal opinion, i don't see any points of arguing over this thread. both of you have a good point!

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Hey All,

Bridging Visa B GRANTED! So I get to got home for Christmas, thanks for all the kind wishes. Lets hope the Spouse Visa will be granted soon too...that would be a great Christmas present!

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Bridging Visa B GRANTED! So I get to got home for Christmas, thanks for all the kind wishes. Lets hope the Spouse Visa will be granted soon too...that would be a great Christmas present!

Hannabelle
Congrat hannabelle. if you don't mind please let us know what was the reason you use to leave the country.
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Congrat hannabelle. if you don't mind please let us know what was the reason you use to leave the country.
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Hi Foxy,

Of course, I just wrote on the application form that I hadn't seen most of my family for 18months and would like to spend Christmas with them. I wrote that my husband was coming with me to spend some time with my family and how important this is for a newly married couple.

I am on a Bridging Visa A by the way.

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thanks for that does anyone here knows how many times we can apply for bridging visa b??

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