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Old 07-19-2010, 12:00 AM
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Myself and my boyfriend are currently on our second working holiday visa which runs out May 2011. We are working managing a lodge in the Snowy Mountians for the winter and our employers would like us to come back next year. What visa would we need to apply for and could we stay on after the winter season next year??

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Hi

Myself and my boyfriend are currently on our second working holiday visa which runs out May 2011. We are working managing a lodge in the Snowy Mountians for the winter and our employers would like us to come back next year. What visa would we need to apply for and could we stay on after the winter season next year??

Thanks for your help :O)
Yes, well no third WHVs on the horizon and so to be able to work legally for a wage you're going to be left with not much more than getting either an employer sponsorship or a skilled independent visa if you were eligible and the latter can take a while.
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Other than that, in the student area there are Occupational Training Visas but getting one of those for lodge management would be something of a stretch I imagine.
Some people do leave Australia at the end of a WHV to then apply for an ETA or tourist visa for extra time and neither allowing legal work for wages but if you were doing the lodge management for just lodging and meals, you could do that but it could take some convincing of Immi people on your return.





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Thanks for your relply. The company we are working for would sponser us for the following winter season. Is this visa simple to apply for? Could we then apply for a longer term visa

Neither of us has qualification is lodge management/cateering but we were thinking of getting formal qualifications (to turn all our cooking experience into a formal qualification should be pretty simple) as this may help with staying long term. On some of the websites I've looked at they said we may be able to get state sponsership but I can't find out much on this. I believe a lot of the rules have just changed with regard to what "skills" Australia needs. We have been doing the cooking/lodge management for 12 out of the last 24 months but I'm not sure that this "skilll" is on any of the SOLs anymore.

If we could organise sponsership for next winter that would be great because we would have the job security to travel the rest of Australia over the 6th months after we finish here. We have driven from Perth across and visited Tassy (30000km!) but only been as high as Sydney and really want to see the North of WA. Feel like we are running out of time already!!!


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Thanks for your relply. The company we are working for would sponser us for the following winter season. Is this visa simple to apply for? Could we then apply for a longer term visa

Neither of us has qualification is lodge management/cateering but we were thinking of getting formal qualifications (to turn all our cooking experience into a formal qualification should be pretty simple) as this may help with staying long term. On some of the websites I've looked at they said we may be able to get state sponsership but I can't find out much on this. I believe a lot of the rules have just changed with regard to what "skills" Australia needs. We have been doing the cooking/lodge management for 12 out of the last 24 months but I'm not sure that this "skilll" is on any of the SOLs anymore.

If we could organise sponsership for next winter that would be great because we would have the job security to travel the rest of Australia over the 6th months after we finish here. We have driven from Perth across and visited Tassy (30000km!) but only been as high as Sydney and really want to see the North of WA. Feel like we are running out of time already!!!
The 457 Employer Sponsorship is possibly one of the simpler ones to apply for but there are still requirements to be met for both employer and employee to be eligible.
I'd suggest you have a read of all the visa info - Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457) and one of the key things is that an occupation is in the ENSOL - http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/ensol.pdf , there being hotel/motel management in there but can't say as I recall lodge management but it will be worth the employer making enquiries to see if the lodge can in fact be considered a private hotel or motel and thus be included.
You'll note sponsorship needs the employer/position to be approved and there are things like market salary etc. to be complied with and that may be a problem - if so, can it be got around by just employing one of you and the other being a dependant secondary applicant.
So a few issues to be addressed and then your lack of qualifications too - and likewise you'll need to assess whether the experience you get there this season will be sufficient as an alternate to qualifications, possibly the case if the sponsorship is for the limited period of seasonal work, sponsorships able to be from one day to four years.
And yes, if it's possible to do a course or courses and perhaps even something online you can do that recognises your work in preparation for doing a TAFE course at the end of the season or whatever.
State sponsorship is only in conjuction with skilled visas and you do need to have specific trade or higher level qualifications that need to be fully assessed.
With the sponsorship for the ski season and a period specified, that's about it other than seeing if you can get an onshore visitor visa or a student visa but that gets expensive.
A visitor visa will allow you to do WWOOF Australia Official Website which could provide some options for you.
Unfortunately, the Ski season is the best time to be getting up to the NW of WA and other places tropically further north, though if the Ski season is finished by October, you could make quick tracks [ a flight best, given time restriction] to Broome and thereabouts, Kunnunurra, the bungles and Ord River though the temps will be about 35C and heading towards 40C.
You could then head via Darwin to Cairns and Darwin will be in the wet season build up time - not too nice!, Kakadu either closed or very dry and dusty and not worth the effort but Litchfield NP is easy enough to get to and you'll possibly get some spectacular storm activity while being very sweaty and so best to not hang about too long and get yourself to Cairns and working your way down the coast from November/December will see you miss the worst of the tropical wet weather.
You may even be able to arrange for some island resort work down around the Whitsundays or further south.
Even if you have your own vehicle, it might be best to leave that down south until you return, especially if you have the employer sponsorshio organised.
You might even be able to do some Campervan relocations to fit in with flights/work - Rental Relocations Australia New Zealand United States Canada - Hire Now at StandByCars
Anyway, a bit more research and planning ahead for employer and you two.
If it's a long term future in Australia you're going to be after as a couple, it's really a case of at least one of you getting sufficient qualifications to be eligible to apply for a skilled visa, either independently or by employer sponsorship on a longer term [ at least two years ] basis.





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The current job we have pays just a little under the market salary needed for a 457 visa, but we do get addition extras such as lift pass, free accomodation and free food which would take the actual earnings to way above as we pretty much have nothing to spend our money on. There is one bar and no shops here.... I think it is possible the most remote place in Australia. We don't even have roads coming in to resort now it has snowed! I'm pretty sure we can't get a 457 visa because we are 1 month short on experience.

We might have to look at a student visa option and get formal qualifiations in cateering. I'm not sure how we'd stand if one of us could do a student visa, can the other person stay as well as de facto, or is this really expensive?

Just been having a look on the vechicle relocation site, thanks for that. The cost of a 4wd for 3 weeks was something like $4000, which is more than slightly over budget! We are hoping to finish end of September and with the help of the rental relocations website will now hopefully be able to do the top end :O)


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