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Old 01-30-2014, 11:47 PM
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We never even lived together, Were in Long Distance for so long, still I got a huge pile of documents. My CO also sent an email saying my application was so comprehensive

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It always makes me curious as well when people say they're struggling for evidence but have been together for years. I've been in a de facto relationship myself for 6 years and could open up practically any drawer in the house and have enough evidence to prove it beyond doubt within 5 minutes. It just naturally accumulates.


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I have recently submitted my 300 and am stroll trying to think of hard evidence I could submit to support it. I am English living in Indonesia as I teach there. I met my fiancée in Bali, and have a genuine and loving relationship. Every chance we get time off of work we spend with each other. We have travelled to Cambodia and India together as well as him coming back to England with me for Christmas.
But I found actual hard evidence hard to find as we don't live together yet as our circumstances do not allow it. There are no phone records even though we FaceTime every day for at least three hours on weekends it more like nine.
We put in photo evidence, correspondence with our wedding vendors (we will be having a big wedding in Bali in 2015) a copy of our Facebook page (the one that shows your relationship history) and copies of engagement cards.
Does anyone have any other suggestions of items you cannot submit when you don't live together yet!

Thank you for your help.

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Old 01-31-2014, 04:27 AM
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You could do a statement of future plans for your lives together. Statutory declarations from people who know you both who can vouch for your relationship. Credit card statements or online invoices for gifts you have sent each other. Hotel receipts or travel tickets/boarding passes. Can you list each other as beneficiaries on your superannuation or retirement funds or take out life insurance listing each other as beneficiaries? Bank statements or other evidence showing that you have supported each other financially or jointly contributed financially to your future lives together.

You could take a screenshot of your FaceTime recent history and submit that as evidence of being in contact.


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I do think the criteria are going to have to change down the track. Harsh as it sounds it may get to the point where there is the PMV for those who want to get married.....onshore visa for those who are already married or who are registered AND have fulfilled the cohabitation requirement...rather than registration just being used as a way to bypass the 12 months living together...

Speaking to a number of people who are going through the visa process...there are a good percentage who seem to start dating..and within a matter of weeks have moved in/opened bank accounts etc as they know it is what immigration look for as 'proof' of a genuine and continuing relationship. My and my partner had been together for over 2 years when we applied and we still don't have a joint bank account!! We didn't live together until we had been together for 16 months for work/family reasons...

I also think that maybe it's time for the 2 years from application = eligible for PR rule to change as basically what it means is that a sham application requires 3 years of your life and voila....you are a resident and don't need to have skills of any kind....extending the timeframe to 4 or 5 years might be a deterrent!! The fee increases don't seem to be doing much except annoying people!!
Mmmm, I can't agree with five years for PR. It can be very, very difficult (nearly impossible) to get a high-level professional job without permanent residency. I'm throwing my line in the water anyway hoping for the best, but my fiance and I are going to have to live very frugally for a couple more years if I don't get hired until I have PR.

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I know what you're saying Adam. It might well be a generational thing, People don't write letters and postcards anymore, they often don't think of keeping receipts, plane tickets etc. at the time. Quite a few people I have been dealing with don't have computers and only use a smart phone. They don't keep electronic records or old emails etc. etc.They often don't pay "formal" rent or stay with family. Many couples nowadays tend to have separate bank accounts and of course when you're young and in a new relationship, you may not have too much in the way of joint finance and assets.
I do agree wholeheartedly with this! While we did manage to gather quite a large amount of evidence for our application, I will admit that a good deal of it is only there because we knew we had to save it. I hate clutter, of all kinds, including digital clutter so I don't keep things like emails I have read, I delete online bills as soon as the new one comes in, I don't even keep Christmas cards beyond the holiday season (I recycle them). I hate receipts with a passion and keep them the bare minimum amount of time (the time it takes for the return warranty to expire) and then it's shredded and disposed of. I am not an overly sentimental person and don't keep many momentos beyond photographs so I don't keep boarding passes, tickets or other tchotchkes as a general rule. I did the last year because I knew we would be needing them.

My personality just doesn't lend itself to accumulating the things immigration require as relationship evidence, naturally.

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I do agree wholeheartedly with this! While we did manage to gather quite a large amount of evidence for our application, I will admit that a good deal of it is only there because we knew we had to save it. I hate clutter, of all kinds, including digital clutter so I don't keep things like emails I have read, I delete online bills as soon as the new one comes in, I don't even keep Christmas cards beyond the holiday season (I recycle them). I hate receipts with a passion and keep them the bare minimum amount of time (the time it takes for the return warranty to expire) and then it's shredded and disposed of. I am not an overly sentimental person and don't keep many momentos beyond photographs so I don't keep boarding passes, tickets or other tchotchkes as a general rule. I did the last year because I knew we would be needing them.

My personality just doesn't lend itself to accumulating the things immigration require as relationship evidence, naturally.
lol. i am exactly the same. I don't like keeping anything, from old emails to receipts or letters. Plus, I hate taking photos of myself lol.

I was able to provide a considerable amount of evidence, but I could have provided much more if i have kept everything. (e.g. receipts for western union for "financial aspects" but I never thought I would need that).

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It can be very, very difficult (nearly impossible) to get a high-level professional job without permanent residency.
Fair enough CG....I've always been able to get work on temporary visa's however no one would describe my work as high-level ;-P

I just think there is going to have to be an overhaul somewhere as too many people are still abusing the system as it's the 'easiest' way to obtain PR...plus these waiting times are getting utterly stupid!!!

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Mmmm, I can't agree with five years for PR. It can be very, very difficult (nearly impossible) to get a high-level professional job without permanent residency. I'm throwing my line in the water anyway hoping for the best, but my fiance and I are going to have to live very frugally for a couple more years if I don't get hired until I have PR.
That is fair enough. Even though I know that it "may" affect my fiance's chances of getting a job in his field, I am still all for it.

Not surprisingly, most federal government agencies will not hire anyone that is not an Australian citizen.

CG, would you consider doing any kind of job until you find one in your field?


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I know what you're saying Adam. It might well be a generational thing, People don't write letters and postcards anymore, they often don't think of keeping receipts, plane tickets etc. at the time. Quite a few people I have been dealing with don't have computers and only use a smart phone. They don't keep electronic records or old emails etc. etc.They often don't pay "formal" rent or stay with family. Many couples nowadays tend to have separate bank accounts and of course when you're young and in a new relationship, you may not have too much in the way of joint finance and assets.
I'm mid-thirties so I like to pretend I'm still young(ish), but yeah it may well be that. Perhaps I need to move to paperless statements and clear my drawers out more often

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That is fair enough. Even though I know that it "may" affect my fiance's chances of getting a job in his field, I am still all for it.

Not surprisingly, most federal government agencies will not hire anyone that is not an Australian citizen.

CG, would you consider doing any kind of job until you find one in your field?
No, not unless for example my fiance lost his job and things got dire for us. It would set me back in my career, as currently I can spend multiple hours a day staying current in my field and keeping myself relevant by continuing to write, publish and share content I'm creating. That will give employers something to look at when they're ready to start hiring me. It'd be even better if I could find a volunteer opportunity, say for a non-profit, to do this kind of thing for them, but my time is probably best used looking for paying jobs. If a volunteer opportunity for a non-profit fell in my lap, though, I'd probably take it on.

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