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Old 01-30-2014, 09:40 AM
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Government cracking down on partner visas

Has anyone seen this:
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...ner-visa-fraud
Hope it doesn't impact negatively on genuine applicants.

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Old 01-30-2014, 10:42 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if we see them eventually change the length of time before the partner can get PR.

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I wouldn't be surprised if we see them eventually change the length of time before the partner can get PR.
Agreed.

Forwarded the article to my partner who one of those who did the classic old-fashioned "boy-meets-girl" thing they mention in the article
I think his grandparents are still disappointed he didn't end up with a nice English girl...

I found the bit about pushing up the minimum age limit especially interesting, as I've read a few posts by very young (underage) people talking about partner visas, that I find slightly unsettling (not to judge, just my personal opinion about being ready to make a decision about a partnership intended for a lifetime if indeed it is your choice).

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Hi All -

For what it's worth, we're seeing more and more cases of partner visa applicants undergoing extremely high levels of scrutiny. In response, we've been increasing the volume and details of relationship evidence we recommend our clients provide with partner visas, especially if there are any risk factors present (short relationship, high % of online contact vs physical contact, age difference > 10 yrs, applicant from high risk country, religious differences, etc).

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I strongly disagree with the age limit on a partner visa. My partner and and I are only 22, but we have been together for four years and lived together for three of those. I think that definitely qualifies us to be able to decide whether we can spend the rest of our lives together or not. We know each other more than people coming to Australia on the very basic PMV do (i.e met only once) so why should our age be a barrier to being together?

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I would have to agree with Danegirl. If they are going to change the age limit to eliminate younger people, then change the marriage laws as well. The migration system currently is rife with age discrimination (ie, other than a few rare exceptions, no way to get a skilled visa for people over age 49), we certainly do not need a "nanny state" government deciding how old married adults have to be in order for the relationship to be "genuine" (ie, whatever the case officer decides) and a visa allowed to be applied for. What's next, age difference limits between sponsor and applicant? Partner visas prohibited for applicants from "certain countries"? Literacy tests for applicants? It's time for reasonableness to prevail in this area, and overreaching stereotyping (such as labeling everybody of a certain age in the same way, regardless of the merits of their relationship) to be rejected.

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I strongly disagree with the age limit on a partner visa. My partner and and I are only 22, but we have been together for four years and lived together for three of those. I think that definitely qualifies us to be able to decide whether we can spend the rest of our lives together or not. We know each other more than people coming to Australia on the very basic PMV do (i.e met only once) so why should our age be a barrier to being together?
Sorry to have upset you with my comment but I was referring to minors, i.e. underage applicants / sponsors (seeing as the partner visa is also available to those that are 16/17 year old, as long as their parent or guardian sponsors the applicant), especially given the requirement of having lived together for more than 12 months for defacto; or intending to marry/being married.

Again, I understand that people will disagree with this opinion and I wouldn't want to judge anyone's relationship. It is just something that I found quite surprising when I was first reading through the Partner Migration booklet.

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I am sorry , had no intention of being contentious when I posted this story, rather I was wishing to bring everyone's attention to a possible change in the way visas are accessed.
The age question can be vexatious at the best of times, As a father of 2 teenage girls i feel that I am qualified in saying that it would be hard for a minor to claim that they are in a purposeful and meaningful relationship.
Young adults are another matter, my sister married at 20 to someone only 3 years her senior, and they are about to celebrate their 40th wedding anniversary.
As far as age gaps go I think it is not so much the gap but how old the parties are.A widower friend of mind just married a widow 25 years his junior however he was 65 and she was 40.
The 45 year age gap between another couple I encountered socially was totally different she is a 20 year old woman and he a 65year old man.

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In the article, Why are they treating as if people who have spouse PR and living abroad are all fraud?

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I have a 12 year age gap with my husband - I am 30 and he is 42 - and I admit that our age gap has caused me some worry because I'm not sure whether it will raise a flag with immigration or not. We are both of the same religion - or agnosticism actually - and we were both brought up in similar cultures (he is American) in a similar family structure and with similar family social standing (ie middle class). We both have the same education level (both holding a bachelor degree) work in similarly respected fields (me nursing and he military) etc etc. Apart from the age gap, everything regarding our relationship seems incredibly "vanilla" (for want of a better word).

By "volume and details of relationship evidence" what exactly do you mean? Can you give some examples of relationship evidence that wasn't recommended previously that you now suggest is included? I'm just freaking out a little and wondering if we need to somehow find even more evidence. Eek! Just when I feel confident that our application is a good one... I'm getting so tired of being on this roller coaster!


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