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Old 02-02-2014, 06:56 PM
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Hello Forum,
Although I have already dugged through the forum for a couple of days now I "officially" registered and wanted to say Hello to everybody !


I have a rather unique situation and will be as brief as possible,

I was born in Berlin (Germany) in 1995 (18 years old) to a german father and australian mother, unfortunately my mother left me and my dad when I was about one and a half years old for reasons I still dont know.
Now I always wanted to find her but my dad never agreed with it, I am 18 now and found her sister online and established a connection finally after so long ...

I will fly to australia in two weeks and found out I could apply for australian citizenship , I gathered all the information and all the forms I need and I will lodge the application in australia, once I have talked to my mother and when I have her birth certificate.

Now to my problem : identity declaration

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The identity declaration must be completed and signed by a person who :

-is an Australian citizen ( if you are applying in Australia ) or is a citizen of your country of residence ( if you are applying outside Australia )

-has known your for at least one year and belongs to a profession on the list on pages 5 and 6
The problem is that I dont know anybody in Australia for at least one year, I could get it signed by my bank or my doctor here in Germany but I will be lodging the application when I am in Australia... Do you guys understand what I mean and do you think it will matter ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and I am sorry if I did some grammatical mistakes.

Cheers to everyone ,
fabi


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I am dealing with a similar situation. I was advised by the Citizenship section that the application should be made offshore. They would not guarantee that an onshore application with an overseas ID declaration would be accepted. They didn't say it was impossible either....

Maybe one of the other agents on this forum has experience with this particular issue ?

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Thanks Nick !
Its a bit frustrating , I mean the whole form and application is so straight forward I just dont understand why they would put such a rule in place, isnt it my right to apply for citizenship so why does my identity have to be recognized in the community ... Oh well

Would be great if someone has some more information, since it would cost a fortune to fly down under , get the documents and then go back to apply and fly down there again haha.


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It certainly is frustrating, Fabi. I have talked at length with the people who process these applications and they were unwilling/unable to give me a definitive answer on this.

My understanding is that for an onshore application, the ID declaration must be done by an Australian citizen, etc. There is nothing saying that you can't make an offshore application, while you are in Australia, so that's what I will be doing for my client, to be on the safe side.

I did an application for citizenship by conferral a while ago. The application was lodged in Australia and the ID declaration was done in PNG by a PNG national. The application was accepted and subsequently approved.

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My suggestion would be to try and fine an Australian Citizen in Germany who has lived there for over a year.


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My suggestion would be to try and fine an Australian Citizen in Germany who has lived there for over a year.
That person should have known the applicant personally for at least one year, otherwise it would not work.

The identity declaration must be completed and signed by
an Australian citizen who:
has known you for at least one year and belongs to a
profession on the list on page 9, and
is not related to you by birth, marriage or de facto
relationship, and
is easy to contact by telephone during normal working
hours.

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