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Submit a PMV offshore then go get married in oz on a tourist visa?


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Old 02-06-2014, 08:41 AM
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Submit a PMV offshore then go get married in oz on a tourist visa?

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Hope someone can help me, I was advised by a migration agent here in the UK (that's where I'm from) that the 'quickest, easiest and cheapest' way for me to get back to Oz to live with my boyfriend is to apply for a PMV over here in the UK and then before it is granted travel to Oz on a tourist visa and get married after 2 months or so. Then I could change the application to an 820 at no extra charge and they would grant me a bridging visa to be able to stay in Oz whilst it is considered.



Is this actually true? Would it not cost any more money? And what kind of evidence would I need to provide for the 820 application ie 12 month evidence?
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Whst would be the point in applying for pmv then? Pretty sure it would become invalid as your supposed to get married after thats granted.

You may as well just go on a tourist visa to start with, even though technically your not a tourist

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I think your agent is mistaken on the "no extra charge". You'd need to cancel your PMV and DIBP don't issue refunds for withdrawn applications. Then you lodge an 820 visa and pay the full fee for that.

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Hi everyone,



Hope someone can help me, I was advised by a migration agent here in the UK (that's where I'm from) that the 'quickest, easiest and cheapest' way for me to get back to Oz to live with my boyfriend is to apply for a PMV over here in the UK and then before it is granted travel to Oz on a tourist visa and get married after 2 months or so. Then I could change the application to an 820 at no extra charge and they would grant me a bridging visa to be able to stay in Oz whilst it is considered.



Is this actually true? Would it not cost any more money? And what kind of evidence would I need to provide for the 820 application ie 12 month evidence?
Thanks for your comments
This is incorrect. If you married after lodgement of the PMV and got married before grant of the PMV, you will be considered for a 309/100 visa, which is an offshore partner visa. You would then have to meet the requirements of that visa instead of the PMV.

Forget about loopholes and "quick,easy and cheap".

If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is…You'd also have to wonder if this sort of advice meets professional and ethical standards.

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Ok I get it, there are no easy loopholes which is kind of what I thought when the agent gave me this advice but it does actually say in the partner migration handbook:

If you marry your fiancé(e) before you are granted a Prospective Marriage visa, you can change your
application to that of a Partner visa at no extra charge.To do this, you must:
• immediately send written notification to the department’s office or Australian mission processing your
application;
• provide a certified copy of the extract from the relevant marriage registry office; and
• provide a written request that, due to your marriage, you wish to withdraw your application for a
Prospective Marriage visa and that you wish to change your application to that for a Partner visa.

I'm confused!


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This refers to an offshore partner visa, not the onshore one. You should not rely on the booklets , as the information is often incomplete or ambiguous at best . You cannot apply for a PMV , travel to Australia, get married and then convert your PMV application to an onshore partner visa application .

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I'd say if you get married, it changes your application from a 300 to a 309, which probably will not make much difference and you'd still have to wait it out until its granted. I'm sure there are plenty of 309 applicants waiting for their visa to be granted so they can come to Australia too!

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Can I just clarify, does this mean that you can apply for a 300, then if you get married before it's granted (say, if you planned your wedding date in advance and it wasn't granted in time) you could convert to a 309?

Also,doesn't this save you a lot of money? And how do the proof standards work? I understand 309 is harder to get than 300, so would you need to provide extra evidence?


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The application fees are the same, the requirements are different. The extra cost for a sc. 300 is that you have to pay the additional ( reduced) fee when you apply for the sc 820/801 after you get married. If you apply for the 309/100 visa you don't have to pay the additional application fee for the onshore component.

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I'm not 100% on this....

I think 300/309 visas are like steps to grant you access to stay in Australia, then once you are in aus you are working towards the next visa which would be your permanent residency.

For two yrs you are sponsored, just like the work sponsored visas you got to fulfill the requirements, then once your 'time' is done you apply to become a permanent resident.

I'm sure you would need to supply evidence of your wedding etc and once in Australia continue to produce evidence that you are living as a married couple.

My aunt knew of a couple that rushed to get married to 'beat' the system. I don't think from heresay that it was a smart move.

We plan to get married in September, more than likely our visa will still be being processed. The extra nine mths I feel gives you a better chance to save and plan for a wedding.

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