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Old 02-27-2011, 02:04 AM
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Internal checks are those made by Immi officers and they can vary depending on the visa and whether it is lodged from within Australia or abroad, medical standards being addressed by approved medical officers who either approve or reject based on established criteria, there being a sticky thread about those.
Where applications require a Penal Clearance Certificate, the PCC or more commonly referred to as a Police Check, that is also an official document that Immi officers would normally accept.
Other checks that Immi officers may make could be re family situations via a home visit for family visas or an employer enquiry/visit re skilled visas.

There is then an external security check conducted by ASIO and that'll be dependent on country an applicant is from, be it considered a high risk or low risk country.

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Thank you Wanderer,
All I know is that I am from UAE and my country is not in Low Risk countries, but my lawyer told me that they will try to put my application as a fast track. I am lodging on shore application for employee sponsorship.
My friends told me that internal check for us will take a long time so we can have fast track processing. they told me that main part is PCC from interpol and enquiring my medical record from my country which and this is why our applications (High Risk countries) will not be possible to processed as a fast track. I was woundering if I can do that interpol enquiry or medical enquiry my self to speed up my application. I have already sent them my medical checks by medi bank in australia and federal police check in australia.

please tell me if there is any thing that i can do to speed up my application. I saw that many people have received their PR after 3 or 4 weeks.

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I've never heard of people getting a skilled PR myself in 3-4 weeks but certainly if you've an employer able to sponsor on PR, that will help part of the process and it will be up to Immi if they seek the external checking by ASIO as there are some Hi Risk countries that it is not done for but forget Interpol and if you have had a medical examination and got AFP police reports and any other eligibility requirements done that you can do, that's all you can do and your application will be in the system with thousands of others but having a higher priority though that dfoes not always mean anything with the ASIO checking if required, Immi having no control over that.





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Old 03-22-2011, 05:02 AM
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We have applied for permanent visa 121 nine months ago (June 2010). I had my nomination approved in January 2011, and then we were assigned to CO. Everything was fine, and CO is happy with the documents. But he said that he is doing Security checks. I am here with my family, husband and two little ones. It is very hard for me to accept - "do nothing", as my migration agent sugests. Our visa is expiring in May, and she said that the letter we have received from immigration (July 2010) is not correct, that we do not have briging visa as stated in the letter. She also said that my student visa has a risk when extended, such as if permanent visa comes before the student visa is extended, the student visa will overwrite the permenent and we will lose it. I have found the number of mistakes when she was preparing documents, but this seams to be very bad. She is saying that the same risk applies with working visa 457 too. I am so stressed, my work and PhD is not looking good at the moment, not to mention my family problems.

Is there anything we could do? Please help me:-)

After reading that there is no time-frame for security checks, I cannot sleep at all. How is this possible?


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Old 03-23-2011, 04:32 PM
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We have applied for permanent visa 121 nine months ago (June 2010). I had my nomination approved in January 2011, and then we were assigned to CO. Everything was fine, and CO is happy with the documents. But he said that he is doing Security checks. I am here with my family, husband and two little ones. It is very hard for me to accept - "do nothing", as my migration agent sugests. Our visa is expiring in May, and she said that the letter we have received from immigration (July 2010) is not correct, that we do not have briging visa as stated in the letter. She also said that my student visa has a risk when extended, such as if permanent visa comes before the student visa is extended, the student visa will overwrite the permenent and we will lose it. I have found the number of mistakes when she was preparing documents, but this seams to be very bad. She is saying that the same risk applies with working visa 457 too. I am so stressed, my work and PhD is not looking good at the moment, not to mention my family problems.

Is there anything we could do? Please help me:-)

After reading that there is no time-frame for security checks, I cannot sleep at all. How is this possible?
The agent has one thing right in that there will be No bridging visa when you have applied for a ENS121 because it is an offshore application though you can apply for it from within Australia as you'll see from Employer Nomination Scheme (Subclass 121/856)

I do not think the agent has goven you good information re an extension to a student visa overiding the 121 if it was granted about the same time as the 121 is PR visa and student visa being TR and so because a PR grant cannot be easily rescinded, the student exyension would just not be granted and in any case if you had an application in and then the PR grant was received, you would just notify Immi to cancel the extension application and so it seems the agent does not really know what they are saying.

If it is easier for you to apply for the 457 as an interim visa and it could cause less messing around than a student extension as for that I imagine you would really need another letter of offer to enrol in another course, I would if you have a close look at doing that and because the 457 will be an onshore visa, you would be eligible to get a bridging visa for that in case it took more than a couple of months.
The 457 will not effect your 121 application and your employer prepared to employ you on the 121 should understand the concern of you possibly being left without a visa and even though they will likely also have to re-apply for the 457 and nominate the position for a 457, that is relatively minor work for them but they would want to do that quickly and you could also put your 457 application in simultaneously with them.
Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457)

So look at getting that in hand and some of the stress ought to go and I'd consider getting a new agent and if your employer uses a different agent, they may also do your application as well.

The trouble with security checks at the moment is because if you are from a HR country, there are checks done external to Immi that they have no control over and a lot of resources are being used up because of the people smuggling from Indonesia and unfortunately it means people loke yourself are being affected thanks to poor government management of our borders.

The other thing you may not know of too is that because the 121 is an offshore visa, for it to be granted the whole family if they are listed as dependants will need to take a short overseas holiday as you need to be offshore for an offashore visa to be granted.





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Thank you Wanderer very much. Your help and understanding is much appreciated.

This agent is my employers agent, so it very hard to convince our HR in the mistakes that the agent is making. The agent is employed in well-known lawyers company, and they are very expensive too! I am already in process of getting new CoE from the University for extending student visa. However, thanks to your explanations, I am probably applying for 457 now. The confusion about my bridging visa came from the letter I have received from Immi in July. In that letter they are advising me that I have bridging visa once my current visa expires. It took 8 months for my agent to tell me that the letter is mistake....

Just one more question.
I already have accepted nomination of the position for 121 visa (Instrument under the Migration Regulation 5.19; Approval of a Nominated Position as an Approved Appointment- ENS. Building and Engineering Professionals nec , 212979) Can I use the same nomination for 457?
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:23 AM
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It can often be the case that if lawyers are not regularly dealing with immigration issues, they will be less versed than an immigration agent who may have minimal law training but specialised training in immigration law and being more conversant with regulations.
Your HR person is probably limited in both and probably just thinks the lawyers know best.
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Can I use the same nomination for 457?
I am neither agent nor lawyer but my commonsense re bureaucracy tells me that it'll likely be No and your employer needs to submit for approval and position nomination for the 457 separately to the 121.

You just need to be very insistent with the HR person so that they understand that as it is at the moment you could shortly be in a situation where you will not have a visa and if it seems there'll be delays with HR and the lawyer firm re getting a 457 application in, you ought to still proceed with the student extension if you can make sure that happens by yourself.
Just give the HR person a timetable to work to for the 457 and if by deadline they have not got it arranged so you can also apply for the 457, just do the extension.





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I don't know how to thank you for advice.
Keep safe and I will post any updates on my case as soon as I have them.
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I am back home-Australia, and my PR visa label shines in the passport. It finally arrived. The processing time for 121 visa was around 10 months.
Thank you very much for the information, it was very helpful.
My family is very happy, I feel like born again.
Good luck to everyone in the same or similar boots : )


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