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Old 10-19-2010, 02:27 PM
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We feel your pain!

One way in which we Australian citizens can change the way our governments operate is to lobby the relevant Minister and to create some political waves for the current government and aspiring governments to deal with. This may be a long and drawn-out process, but judging from this and other forum sites, Australian sponsors of spouses and de facto partners from oveseas are NOT a happy lot!

Just remember: you are not alone.

All the best for your pregnancy and your wait for an outcome with the Department.


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We feel your pain!

One way in which we Australian citizens can change the way our governments operate is to lobby the relevant Minister and to create some political waves for the current government and aspiring governments to deal with. This may be a long and drawn-out process, but judging from this and other forum sites, Australian sponsors of spouses and de facto partners from oveseas are NOT a happy lot!

Just remember: you are not alone.

All the best for your pregnancy and your wait for an outcome with the Department.
Hi, I have to agree we are NOT a happy lot. I have already sent letters to all the relevant representatives - starting from the TOP, and to the opposition equals. Naturally there has been no reply todate. Meanwhile we just hit our heads against a brick wall and the boat people sail on through. Just not fair, plus considering we are the paying side and completed and submitted all relevant paperwork legally and honestly.Annie123


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The only effective answer re politics is to make it known to your local member if they are Labor, Green or even Independent that your vote will go to the coalition at the next election.
Many people think that they can vote for someone like the Greens if they do not want to vote for either of the major parties but Green preferences will usually go to Labor unless you specify otherwise and it is Labor/Green policy that is making something of a mockery of the immigration system for the moment with resources needed to handle the people smuggling issues.
Change would however be fairly minimal as general immigration regulations are determined from considerable experience, immigration numbers have been higher than what most politicians claim they want to see and so with any major policy change family visas may have the screws tightened some no doubt and perhaps even more so than skilled visas for at times skills shortages may be considered more important.
So I'd not expect a great response from politicians.





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Hi, I have to agree we are NOT a happy lot. I have already sent letters to all the relevant representatives - starting from the TOP, and to the opposition equals. Naturally there has been no reply todate. Meanwhile we just hit our heads against a brick wall and the boat people sail on through. Just not fair, plus considering we are the paying side and completed and submitted all relevant paperwork legally and honestly.Annie123
Annie,
What is the status on your visa? Have you heard any news yet?
My application is still in the 'case finalisation' process. I'm not sure what is entailed in that process though.

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Annie,
What is the status on your visa? Have you heard any news yet?
My application is still in the 'case finalisation' process. I'm not sure what is entailed in that process though.

Rio xx
hi, we waited 10 months and received a refusal. We have now applied to tribunal, at this time a further 15 months of waiting for a date, and if remitted as it should be as all positive documents were supplied the first time, and the time frame of our relationship 10 years, plus the approx 20 months living with partner in Maroc from 2005 - 2008. If remitted seems a further wait (re ppl in same situation at the moment) of 10 plus months and still waiting. so as you can see it is a very long and drawn out process, and all the time we are still separated. I will return early in new year for a further stay with my partner. We miss each other alot and it is very painful and depressing, to say the least. I hope you get better outcome than we have had. annie123


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The only effective answer re politics is to make it known to your local member if they are Labor, Green or even Independent that your vote will go to the coalition at the next election.
Many people think that they can vote for someone like the Greens if they do not want to vote for either of the major parties but Green preferences will usually go to Labor unless you specify otherwise and it is Labor/Green policy that is making something of a mockery of the immigration system for the moment with resources needed to handle the people smuggling issues.
Change would however be fairly minimal as general immigration regulations are determined from considerable experience, immigration numbers have been higher than what most politicians claim they want to see and so with any major policy change family visas may have the screws tightened some no doubt and perhaps even more so than skilled visas for at times skills shortages may be considered more important.
So I'd not expect a great response from politicians.
Hi Wanderer, I have actually sent letters to local MP, and Prime Minister, Immig. Minister, Opp. Leader also. I have had no response in any form. I did not make it a personal letter re my situation, but a letter asking for an investigation into the Embassy in Cairo, and their way out time frame in dealing with any matters, and asked that the Global Feedback be checked to see the amount of people who have complained re this matter. Considering embassies such as in Thailand, Indonesia, Phillipines, just to mention a few, any spousal visas are dealt with in a timely manner and understandable manner. Re Cairo in my case it took them 10 months to give a refusal. Now waiting for MRT and on the phone to them was advised it would be now 16 months before a Member would look at the file. Then if remitted back to Cairo (as is happening with some at the moment) they have been waiting their outcome since MRT for 10 months and still no closer to a decision. It is my opinion that this is totally unacceptable by any standard. This process as it stands at the moment means it will be close to 3 years before this has been finalised, and it seems there is nothing that can be done, so its just hitting our heads against a brick wall. NOT HAPPY AUSSIE


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The best thing about being an Aussie is that, unlike in many of the countries from which users of this forum are trying to extricate their partners, we have a direct impact on the people in charge of our lives, that is, the pollies.

One letter from an irate Australian citizen may not do the trick, but a petition presented to the Federal Parliament, signed by many folk who did not appreciate their lives being put on hold by a government department, may start the ball rolling. Australia has an enviable record of People Power, right from the Eureka Stockade

Eureka Stockade - Australia's Culture Portal

and the Shearers' Strike of 1891 onwards.

The Great Shearer's Strike of 1891 » ABC Queensland » Heritage

If you don't think the people in charge of the department will help you, then you might as well give up now.

The MRT situation is entirely deplorable! I


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Ozmikal would seem to want to make a political story of the thread and I have deleted all that which is not really relevant.
He can start another thread in the general topics area if he so desires.

The key issues and there are two he would want to overlook it would seem are
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Change would however be fairly minimal as general immigration regulations are determined from considerable experience, immigration numbers have been higher than what most politicians claim they want to see and so with any major policy change family visas may have the screws tightened some no doubt and perhaps even more so than skilled visas for at times skills shortages may be considered more important.
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Neither party is going to make too much in way of change of regulations unless a major review occurs as has happened with skilled visas and there is never really a driver for that in the family stream, there being more fine tuning of various aspects.
Politicians will always be conscious of overall numbers and the need to meet skills shortages.
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Many people think that they can vote for someone like the Greens if they do not want to vote for either of the major parties but Green preferences will usually go to Labor unless you specify otherwise and it is Labor/Green policy that is making something of a mockery of the immigration system for the moment with resources needed to handle the people smuggling issues.
My reference to political party policy was very specifically in relation to what has been happening tre people smuggling for despite what views may be held, it is factual that huge Immi resources are being usurped because of that activity, to the extent that Immi have been seeking secondment of staff from other departments.
The activity is undermining a structured well managed approach to refugee settlement that Australia has had and if anybody thimks there will not be a flow on effewct to other visas, they should have another think.





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