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ah one of the refuse reasons that my wife and i are 2 different cultures and religions


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i agree with skydancer i will be the first if you all join me
i miss my wife so much and i had hopes that we become together by now
Hi again. Yes the member of parliament is the next step now that this gov has finally formed one here. I agree that we all need to find the right ppl who will be in a position to do something in a positive way to overturn this attitude from Cairo. AGE, RACE, RELIGION & CULTURE is very wrong considering we in Australia are supposed to practice tolerance from all. At the moment I for one do not feel a very proud aussie. I was treated with total respect and acceptance on each occasion I lived in Morocco. I get the feeling from imm. that Morocco does not exist or wishes they would just go away. Perhaps Imm hoping we here will go away and disappear, as they make this experience deplorable with our hands tied behind our backs. The stress and depression I and my partner are feeling is unacceptable, as they rob us of further precious years together. Annie123


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On cultural and other differences aspects, before Immi get judged too harshly one thing that needs to be acknowledged is that the processing of all visas and results will also be based on what has happened historically and also one reason why Immi people employed at different AHCs/Embassies/Consulates etc. will often be people with local backgrounds but who will be backed up by more senior people.
The local Immi practices will be developed on both history and local understanding and decisions made accordingly.





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On cultural and other differences aspects, before Immi get judged too harshly one thing that needs to be acknowledged is that the processing of all visas and results will also be based on what has happened historically and also one reason why Immi people employed at different AHCs/Embassies/Consulates etc. will often be people with local backgrounds but who will be backed up by more senior people.
The local Immi practices will be developed on both history and local understanding and decisions made accordingly.
Im not quite sure what you mean by historically.!!! there are alot of countries throughout the world who have not been view favourably in the past, but regardless of past histories, it seems all people in any of those countries are branded by the countries history, is that what u mean.? If this is so that is very unfair as everyone is an individual. I suppose we could say Aust was built up from convicts, but surely we are not all branded as such. Perhaps im just lost but look forward to understanding what you are meaning. ty for your reply.


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On cultural and other differences aspects, before Immi get judged too harshly one thing that needs to be acknowledged is that the processing of all visas and results will also be based on what has happened historically and also one reason why Immi people employed at different AHCs/Embassies/Consulates etc. will often be people with local backgrounds but who will be backed up by more senior people.
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I too don't understand what you are trying to say.............
What has happened historically?????
And what does this have to do with what is happening in 2010???? The decision maker in my case did not have local knowledge, otherwise they would know that my husband and I would not have married if his parents did not accept me. Also the celebration we had for our marriage was our business, we wanted to keep it intimate with family and close friends but this too was not acceptable by the decision maker. The fact that my phone bill per quarter is almost enough to travel back to morocco and the hours we spent talking on the net, the fact that I can't just pick up and go to morocco and live when I have kids at school a mortgage and stable job security and super for retirement and that I am the same religion as my husband, however were these taken into consideration or was the file even read - I doubt it - if the file was read or our statements read the decision maker would have known about some of the things we were refused for which is bs. It was stated that my case was complex, well then contact me and ask some questions to gain clarity in this situation.


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there comes a time in our lives when we have to think what we are doing and where we are heading.We have certainly been given this time. When this happens, we need to look for options. we need to step away and nurture ourselves

I know it is difficult in this situation .I too dont understand why we are being treated this way. We have been through so much together and we are all hurting. But I also know it is wrong to base a decission on the past.We are not responsible for what happened in any ones past but our own.My husband and I found the tribunal confronting and challenging.Because my husband and I are a genuine couple the questions were not hard to answer but a little invasive.My husband was asked was he ashamed of me....just because we did not marry in his country (morocco) imagine how we both felt.hurt angry and annoyed and yet we had to sit and repond and wait for the next question.Just because we chose to marry quietly in egypt with no family from either sides we are being judged. I wonder if those people employed in that position would recover so easily if placed in this situation..

We have had our share of rejection and I dont think we are wrong to feel as we do.We have a right to be heard,Perhaps people will not agree but thats alright.I am not asking for anyone to agree with me.There must be a better system in place for anyone going through this.Perhaps a letter sent out with a update that our cases have moved along,showing us something positive to hold on to.it would give a person peace of mind.

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I interpreted Wanderer's comment more so regarding what has happened historically with visa applications from Morocco. Perhaps there is a high number of relationship breakups before the PR is granted? Or perhaps they have found a high number of applications to be fraudulent? There must be some reason that they reject so many applications. It seems there is a very small quota accepted.

Either way it sounds very frustrating for you all. Especially one person who mentioned they'd been in a relationship for 10 years and still got the visa rejected? That sounds crazy! Who could be bothered faking a relationship for 10 years for the sake of someone else's visa?! I'd grant it on that alone!

Is it traditional for Moroccans to have large weddings? They seem to be knocking back many applications based on small weddings.

I guess it's easy for me to sit here and think of valid reasons they are rejecting so many applications as i'm not in your shoes. Mind you we are still waiting on our visa.... and we didn't have ANY wedding! I guess that will be viewed differently for Argentine culture.

Good luck to you all if you decide to take this to some sort of legal challenge.

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Im not quite sure what you mean by historically.!!! there are alot of countries throughout the world who have not been view favourably in the past, but regardless of past histories, it seems all people in any of those countries are branded by the countries history, is that what u mean.? If this is so that is very unfair as everyone is an individual. I suppose we could say Aust was built up from convicts, but surely we are not all branded as such. Perhaps im just lost but look forward to understanding what you are meaning. ty for your reply.
Every application is of course going to be considered on its merits and it is not going to be just Moroccans, Tunisians, Algerians or wherever nor the history as old as Australia's first European settlers being convicts or only history.
For all visas there are eligibility requirements and how they are met will of course be examined with local customs in mind, the arranged marriages of some cultures even accepted and at the end of the day COs do need to make a decision on what information is provided.
I am not privvy to what information is in Immi records but I would be sure if there was a continual stream of visa rejections with no valid reasoning then that would be picked up by the Immi department management.
Records could in fact also show that there has been an exceedlingly high failure rate in relationships forged with people from a particular region/background for whatever reasons and that could be one aspect COs would have as a background to consider in examination of applications presented, but it does come down to the total package of information presented.





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Hi DesdeBsAs
my husband is also from Morocco and we have also been in a 10 year relationship,I couldnt imagine anyone staying together this long if they were not genuine.Im not sure what it is about moroccans..my husbands family his mother and 7 siblings did not all celebrate ther marraiges in any way,They dont have a problem that we didnt either and all gave their blessings.we have submitted statements from them stating their support on this.Just waiting now to see if we need a third hearing.... Good luck with everything DesdeBsAs


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This is pathetic

When did you apply for your visa?


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