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Old 09-16-2010, 11:42 PM
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This is pathetic

When did you apply for your visa?
Hi Gemini. I applied on my return from Morocco 2009 after living with my partner and family for 10 months in 2008, 8 months in 2007, 3 months in 2005. We started as friends 2001 and the relationship developed over the following 4 years. I first met my partner in person 2005, and this relationship grew strong, positive and very genuine to the present day. The refusal was "not genuine", but the decision maker stated that we didnt have stat dec's from his family, which showed the decision maker didnt read the file when making that statement, as he gave my partner these documents back at time of his interview. On receiving the file to present to MRT they had copies of these "STAT DEC'S" in their file in Cairo. I find this very strange to say the least. Perhaps Cairo is on overload, but to state a lie in refusing is not very professional. We had to wait 10 months to receive the refusal, now it has been submitted to MRT and they now have stated it will be a further 15 months before we will be allocated a date for this hearing, and if they then remit it back to Cairo, it seems to be taking a further 9 - 10 plus months to know the outcome, plus further paperwork, medicals, police clearances etc.and all this added financial burden that is necessary to continue. As I have stated previously perhaps they hoped we would just give up and go away. Someone previously said love will find a way through this nightmare, I can only hope and pray that this nightmare will conclude sooner than later. It would have been easier to just live in Marocco - cheaper at least. annie123


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I cannot believe the news that I have been reading in regards to the refusals through the embassy in Cairo. I am so worried now about my husband's application. My husband is Tunisian and our application was lodged late May this year. I am an Australian citizen. It is now 3 weeks exactly since we had the interview together and everything else (checks, etc) have and completed and have come back clear. We are now awaiting the final decision from the Senior Migration Officer. My husband and I both attended the embassy in Cairo for our interviews (interviewed separately though) and we were drilled quite hard in the interview. Even though the questions were quite personal I believe we did well in that aspect.

My only worry was the financial-related questions. I am making more money than my husband and I was questioned about how I contributed a lot financially to the relationship. I did admit that to the officer; however we both as husband and wife decided to work together and it didn't matter how much money one was making. I also mentioned that I also FULLY financially supported my father and brother whilst I was living at the family home for the past four years. This included food, mortgage payments, bank repayments, etc. So I shouldn't be denied the visa because of that.

Also we had the BIG traditional Tunisian wedding because we both wanted it as we believe family is very important to us on this occasion. Only my sister could attend the wedding due to Tunisia being so far away. My mother who was based in London at the time was sick (she got a stroke) so she couldn't come. I did advise the officer that once my husband and I are settled in Australia, we would also be having a traditional New Zealand wedding as I still want this for my family in Oz and NZ.

I have also embraced Islam and consider myself Muslim. I told the officer that I chose this and I was never forced into it. My best friends since primary school were of a similar background to my husband and they were muslim too. I am quite familiar with the religion. She also asked if our future children would be raised Muslim, I said yes. In addition to my answer, I advised that even though I have embraced this religion, our family will still be involved in Xmas celebrations etc (not the actual celebrating of the occasion). In our culture (NZ), it doesn;t matter what religion you are, it is respectful to attend the dinner's, lunches etc. I told the officer that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what religion we are, its about family (which is completely true).

I did my husband on the internet and we actually married the first time we met in person. We did in fact communicate every day since we met which was 8 months before. Some people may call me crazy but I do not believe in sexual intimacy until marriage (from my previous religion) and he too was the same. Although I want to spend more time with him in Tunisia, I can't because of work and study.

Gosh I hope I get the visa because I need him here with me.
I must admit, its been pretty stressful but I hope and pray. It's good to know that I know of others going through the long distance communication at the moment whilst waiting for the visa.

I also hope that you have your partner's with you soon in Australia.

Rio xx


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Hi Dear Rio,

Thank you for sharing your story here. It is scary to read about so many refusals, but just to put it in perspective, remember, there are many many more positive outcomes than negative ones even from Cairo.

Your case sounds very strong on each point. I know it is easier said than done, try to relax and think positively. It is extremely likely that you and your hubby will be together in Australia soon.

All the best, and good luck to all of us that are waiting for our visas :-)


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Old 10-05-2010, 06:20 PM
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I am really sorry for that. Don't worry and consider everything as for your well being. If you wish share the reason for your refusal with others by replying to this hence others may be alert to avoid such situation.


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Old 10-06-2010, 01:27 AM
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@ High Voltage, all the information is there. Please take time to read through the thread before commenting.

@ joni003, why are you even here? 16 posts and all of them pointless.


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Hi Dear Rio,

Thank you for sharing your story here. It is scary to read about so many refusals, but just to put it in perspective, remember, there are many many more positive outcomes than negative ones even from Cairo.

Your case sounds very strong on each point. I know it is easier said than done, try to relax and think positively. It is extremely likely that you and your hubby will be together in Australia soon.

All the best, and good luck to all of us that are waiting for our visas :-)
Thanks for your positive comments Skydancer. I will keep everyone informed. I believe sharing our experiences on this forum helps to support each other and what we are going through. I really feel for other beautiful ladies in the same situtation as I. Any of the North African countries are so far away and the long distance between each other makes it hard.

Thanks for your wishes
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hi everyone,
i have only just found this forum and it has completely freaked me out. all this talk of visa refusals and tribunals and the months and years it can take, its all very overwhelming! And while my partner (moroccan) and I are not up to this stage yet, it seems like its certainly something we need to keep in mind. We have been together for about 2 years, we met when I was on holiday in morocco and i have been back there several times since but never for very long. we know that we want to spend our lives together, but we are both still quite young and dont feel the need to get married straight away. But when we do, what is the best way to go about it immigration wise?
Is it easier to get a prospective marriage visa and get married in aus or get married in morocco and get a spouse visa? Does anyone know if its possible if he came on a tourist visa, to get married in australia and apply in australia for him to stay? If we do get married in Morocco, I will make sure we have a big celebration as that seems to be quite a common grounds for refusal of visas, but is there anything else i should know that would help in the future?
Thanks so much in advance, and my thoughts and best wishes are with all of you who are waiting for good news, the whole thing just seems so cruel and unfair.
phoebe


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hi everyone,
i have only just found this forum and it has completely freaked me out. all this talk of visa refusals and tribunals and the months and years it can take, its all very overwhelming! And while my partner (moroccan) and I are not up to this stage yet, it seems like its certainly something we need to keep in mind. We have been together for about 2 years, we met when I was on holiday in morocco and i have been back there several times since but never for very long. we know that we want to spend our lives together, but we are both still quite young and dont feel the need to get married straight away. But when we do, what is the best way to go about it immigration wise?
Is it easier to get a prospective marriage visa and get married in aus or get married in morocco and get a spouse visa? Does anyone know if its possible if he came on a tourist visa, to get married in australia and apply in australia for him to stay? If we do get married in Morocco, I will make sure we have a big celebration as that seems to be quite a common grounds for refusal of visas, but is there anything else i should know that would help in the future?
Thanks so much in advance, and my thoughts and best wishes are with all of you who are waiting for good news, the whole thing just seems so cruel and unfair.
phoebe
Hi there
I don't know which is best, as my husband (moroccan) and I were refused and our application had alot of evidence and was prepared well. We have since also applied for visitor visa and it was refused, after providing alot of information including the fact we are awaiting mrt proceedings and just want to spead sometime together. I'm happy to talk more in private if you like.


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hi everyone,
i have only just found this forum and it has completely freaked me out. all this talk of visa refusals and tribunals and the months and years it can take, its all very overwhelming! And while my partner (moroccan) and I are not up to this stage yet, it seems like its certainly something we need to keep in mind. We have been together for about 2 years, we met when I was on holiday in morocco and i have been back there several times since but never for very long. we know that we want to spend our lives together, but we are both still quite young and dont feel the need to get married straight away. But when we do, what is the best way to go about it immigration wise?
Is it easier to get a prospective marriage visa and get married in aus or get married in morocco and get a spouse visa? Does anyone know if its possible if he came on a tourist visa, to get married in australia and apply in australia for him to stay? If we do get married in Morocco, I will make sure we have a big celebration as that seems to be quite a common grounds for refusal of visas, but is there anything else i should know that would help in the future?
Thanks so much in advance, and my thoughts and best wishes are with all of you who are waiting for good news, the whole thing just seems so cruel and unfair.
phoebe
Hi phoebe

I really do not think there is any difference, everything you submit is what the decision is based on - re accept or refuse. It appears if you have a large age gap it refused. If you basically the same age - there should not be a problem. Re tourist visa - we were refused back in 2006. We applied for a Prospective Marriage visa 2009 - was refused June 2010, presently waiting for MRT hearing - seems waiting time will be oct/nov 2011.
Tourist visa is very difficult - he must show he has a job, money in the bank, letters from his employer stating his return from holidays etc. I do not advise if he gets that visa for you both to marry on that visa.
I wish you well with whatever you decide and good luck. annie123


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Old 11-22-2010, 09:58 AM
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hi everyone,
i have only just found this forum and it has completely freaked me out. all this talk of visa refusals and tribunals and the months and years it can take, its all very overwhelming! And while my partner (moroccan) and I are not up to this stage yet, it seems like its certainly something we need to keep in mind. We have been together for about 2 years, we met when I was on holiday in morocco and i have been back there several times since but never for very long. we know that we want to spend our lives together, but we are both still quite young and dont feel the need to get married straight away. But when we do, what is the best way to go about it immigration wise?
Is it easier to get a prospective marriage visa and get married in aus or get married in morocco and get a spouse visa? Does anyone know if its possible if he came on a tourist visa, to get married in australia and apply in australia for him to stay? If we do get married in Morocco, I will make sure we have a big celebration as that seems to be quite a common grounds for refusal of visas, but is there anything else i should know that would help in the future?
Thanks so much in advance, and my thoughts and best wishes are with all of you who are waiting for good news, the whole thing just seems so cruel and unfair.
phoebe
Given the history of difficulties others are facing Pheobe, I'd suggest you do have a good read of what the eligibility requirements are for relationships and particularly what is in Booklet #1.
One thing not stated about marriage waiving a 12 months relationship requirement is that there are still expectations by Immi you have been living together for some time, six months being mentioned in an Immi procedures manual that COs will use as a guide but that is not all they will be looking at it would seem given refusals that have taken place.
You may find that someone from Morocco has difficulty getting a tourist visa and that does apply to residents of many countries and even if one was granted, it could have what is called a No Further Stay condition on it which means no further visa can be applied for from within Australia so I'd not suggest that approach.
Quite possibly if you can arrange to spend a considerable ammount of time together, the PMV may be the best approach.





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