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Old 03-20-2014, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric881104 View Post
Hi Star Hunter,

My partner is gonna lodge her partner visa application online next week while we are just waiting for the relationship certificate to arrive in the mail, but we have been filling in the online form, then we came across a question for defacto date, should we put the date that we started living together or the date that we have been together without physically living together?

For the four main aspects, there are word counts limit for them, I was just wondering how we could provide more info once reached over the limits? And for those statements, they should be written by my partner who's the applicant, so which aspects will I need to write as the sponsor? I won't be able to write up my statements until she completely lodged her visa, right?

Probably give you a little bit of the background of us my partner and I have been together since mid sept 2012, I was on my 2.5 weeks holidays to see my parents and her before I finished my uni degree later the year (I have known her for more than 10 years, we both started contacting each other frequently since February 2012.) When I went back to Hong Kong, we both met each other parents etc then she decided to come over for working holidays in 2013. Later, She came to visited me in February 2013 for 10 days on a tourist visa, then she went back hk and started to apply her WHV. During that time while we were apart, we had been using skype, tango and what's app to contact each other on a daily basis. I took my annual leaves in June 2013, she then came back over with me. We have been living together since then and during that 10 days of visiting as well. So yea that's our story.

One more question is that the relationship certificate can waive the 12 months living together requirement, we will still have to show evidence that our relationship has been genuine and more than 12 months but not need to worry about the 12 months cohabitation requirement, right? Am I getting myself confused?! :s
Hi Eric,

De-facto is (I believe) defined by DIBP as living together, so in would consider the date you moved in the beginning date of your defacto relationship. That being said, please do include as much relationship evidence from the period prior to that date to paint a story of how your relationship progressed and developed over time.

Of you run out of room for the relationship aspects then you can just upload typed statements into the evidence checklist. What we did was use a very concise statement to a timeline style template on the application form and sponsorship form and then uploaded more fleshed out statements into the evidence, under their relevant categories (financial, social, nature of household etc). You write the same statements on your sponsorship form as the applicant

She lodges the visa application and then you can upload your sponsorship form using her TRN to link the two. Then, evidence she uploads onto her application will be cross uploaded onto yours (if applicable, such as your identification documents etc).

All the relationship registration does is waive the cohabitation requirements, nothing else. You will still be expected to produce lots of evidence to support your claims that your relationship is genuine and ongoing to the exclusion of all others. The more evidence you can produce, going as far back as possible the better. You definitely need to provide lots of evidence from the time you lived together, since that will be when you became a defacto couple and where DIBP is likely to concentrate on, but showing longevity in your relationship can only be a positive thing.

Make sure you address all four criteria and you should be fine

Good luck xxxx

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Old 07-16-2014, 06:29 AM
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Hey Ingxx
I am so sorry for not getting back to you earlier. I didn't see your reply until just then and I have also been pretty busy with my move to OZ;-) Are you back in Holland by now? Like I said I wouldn't be too worried about the living together requirement. You have a lot of proof and I think they do understand the different situations. What I just don't know is how much our registration has actually helped us. I reckon quite a lot because they didn't even ask us for an interview (which I was expecting!). So I can't really tell you if we would have been OK without the registration... We only had one joint bank account but nothing else (and we haven't been using it much, only when I was in Australia on a holiday). My partner owns a house and said that I can live with him and stuff (just to proof that he is able to sponsor me). We didn't want to apply for a PMV because we didn't want to rush into marriage and just wanted to live together first. But you already are engaged and you don't really have to organise a huge wedding. You could just have a small one and a bigger one later one… It would be the more secure way. But for us, this was always our plan "B". In case we wouldn't get granted the partner visa. You just have to sort of expect to lose that money and having to pay for another visa if you don't get it. But if you would be fine with (worst case!) losing that $2600 or whatever it is for an offshore application than I would maybe go for it and try. You just have to make sure you explain everything, why couldn't you live together for longer, why couldn't you register your relationship and what you are doing to make up for it (all the travel proof, your 9 months living together and everything). I think you have a very strong case and you do have a good chance of getting it, but there is always a little risk left…. I wish you all the best and I hope it will all work out :-)

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